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  3. Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging.

Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging.

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  • becomingwisest@hachyderm.ioB becomingwisest@hachyderm.io

    @ehashman I need to figure out the steps to import/compare with what I have in Apple passwords. And what stuff doesn’t import.

    Starting points for me/others.

    How much of https://1password.com/compare/apple-passwords-vs-1password is still true, or applies to me.

    https://9to5mac.com/2026/02/25/heres-how-to-switch-from-1password-to-apple-passwords/ seems simple:

    Export your passwords from 1Password

    Open and unlock the 1Password app on your Mac

    From the menubar, File > Export and select the account you want to export

    Enter your account password

    When asked to choose a format, choose CSV and select Export Data

    Choose where you want to export your 1Password data and select open

    Import your passwords into Apple Passwords

    Open the Passwords app and authenticate

    From the menubar, File > Import passwords from file

    Select the CSV file

    Securely delete the CSV file

    alahmnat@woof.techA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @becomingwisest At least as far as the non-password stuff goes (secure notes, documents, credit cards, license keys, etc.), if you're in the Apple ecosystem I saw folks recommending Uplock back in February when they announced they were raising prices by 33%.

    I'm also given to understand that 1Password doesn't have a means for exporting/transferring passkeys, so you'll need to keep it around long enough to set any of those up from scratch. Otherwise, the password export process worked fine, and on the Mac I think you can even do it without having to export to CSV. I'm not at my Mac right now to be able to recall exactly how that process works, though, and it's been a few months since I did it myself.

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    • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

      Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

      It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

      leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @ehashman
      If you pay a subscription fee for your password manager, do you really have a password manager?

      Or are you really paying someone else to hold your passwords, and please don't misuse them?

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      • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

        Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

        It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

        jamwil@mastodon.sdf.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @ehashman There is unfortunately no cross-platform password manager with the encryption guarantees 1Password offers.

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        • jamwil@mastodon.sdf.orgJ jamwil@mastodon.sdf.org

          @ehashman There is unfortunately no cross-platform password manager with the encryption guarantees 1Password offers.

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          #9

          @jamwil it's true, and it sucks, especially if they don't reverse their position. But as I wrote in my cancellation email to support, I'm willing to put up with a little inconvenience in support of basic human dignity.

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          • alahmnat@woof.techA alahmnat@woof.tech

            @becomingwisest At least as far as the non-password stuff goes (secure notes, documents, credit cards, license keys, etc.), if you're in the Apple ecosystem I saw folks recommending Uplock back in February when they announced they were raising prices by 33%.

            I'm also given to understand that 1Password doesn't have a means for exporting/transferring passkeys, so you'll need to keep it around long enough to set any of those up from scratch. Otherwise, the password export process worked fine, and on the Mac I think you can even do it without having to export to CSV. I'm not at my Mac right now to be able to recall exactly how that process works, though, and it's been a few months since I did it myself.

            scott@sfba.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @alahmnat @becomingwisest Thanks for sharing this! Uplock looks nice. I recently moved from 1Password to Proton Pass — ruling out Apple Passwords because I'm trying to diversify (anticipating one day needing to leave the Apple ecosystem entirely).

            But yesterday I learned of equally problematic things done by one of the Proton founders sooooo… ughhhhh

            I think my options are either Apple Passwords + Uplock (which look nice for now, but increase my dependency on iCloud, which I'll have to undo later) or self-hosting something like @aliasvault or @passbolt, my current top two picks.

            Good luck, everyone!

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            • micdan@mstdn.partyM micdan@mstdn.party

              @ehashman Thank God I never used 1P in the first place. :'p

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              #11

              @micdan @ehashman Same here.

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              • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

                thedoh@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @ehashman I spent my afternoon starting in on containerizing https://codeberg.org/ChiPass/ChiPass as part of the process to terminate an 18 year relationship with @1password

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                • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                  Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                  It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

                  mtconleyuk@mastodonapp.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @ehashman
                  AI, Electron, violations of macOS UI conventions, and now hanging out with Nazis.

                  Interesting that the rank and file don’t seem to be happy about this; I wonder whether any will walk.

                  Anyway, time to look elsewhere.

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                  • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                    Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                    It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

                    ahhhhhhhhhhh@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @ehashman if anyone needs a new password manager.... Just use keepass with WebDAV. Why put your hand on a new stove by going to 'another online service'?

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                    • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

                      @alahmnat @becomingwisest Thanks for sharing this! Uplock looks nice. I recently moved from 1Password to Proton Pass — ruling out Apple Passwords because I'm trying to diversify (anticipating one day needing to leave the Apple ecosystem entirely).

                      But yesterday I learned of equally problematic things done by one of the Proton founders sooooo… ughhhhh

                      I think my options are either Apple Passwords + Uplock (which look nice for now, but increase my dependency on iCloud, which I'll have to undo later) or self-hosting something like @aliasvault or @passbolt, my current top two picks.

                      Good luck, everyone!

                      bss@social.coopB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @scott

                      https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

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                      • sycophantic@infosec.exchangeS sycophantic@infosec.exchange

                        @ehashman sucks you can't export passkeys

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                        #16

                        @sycophantic you should be able to if you are on 1PW v8 and you’re going to a manager that supports FIDO CXP (I’m looking at BitWarden right now)

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                        • ahhhhhhhhhhh@mastodon.socialA ahhhhhhhhhhh@mastodon.social

                          @ehashman if anyone needs a new password manager.... Just use keepass with WebDAV. Why put your hand on a new stove by going to 'another online service'?

                          w_b@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #17

                          @ahhhhhhhhhhh @ehashman

                          I started using Keepass after I saw Bruce Schneier recommend it.

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                          • standev@mstdn.socialS standev@mstdn.social

                            @sycophantic you should be able to if you are on 1PW v8 and you’re going to a manager that supports FIDO CXP (I’m looking at BitWarden right now)

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                            #18

                            @sycophantic (here’s a howto) https://www.1password.community/1password-at-home-31/how-to-migrate-1password-vaults-to-bitwarden-folders-with-passkeys-using-ios-26-cxp-24135

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                            • w_b@mastodon.worldW w_b@mastodon.world

                              @ahhhhhhhhhhh @ehashman

                              I started using Keepass after I saw Bruce Schneier recommend it.

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                              #19

                              @w_b @ehashman its the only password manager I have every used. Mainly because to begin with it was the only password manager around. Ahh the days of trucrypt.

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                              • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                                Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                                It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

                                ehashman@cloudisland.nzE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #20

                                Long shot but: if you're a 1Password employee and you want to talk about what's happening, DM me for my Signal!

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                                • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                                  Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                                  It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

                                  aburka@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @ehashman well, we are calling him evil, because he's evil

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                                  • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                                    Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                                    It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

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                                    #22

                                    @ehashman suggest you read this linked article on Proton
                                    https://social.coop/@bss/117198034295516413

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                                    • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                                      Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                                      It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

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                                      #23

                                      @ehashman Unfortunately we use it at work, though I already do not use it at home.
                                      I will bring this up though if I can find the time and channels

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                                      • ripp_@chitter.xyzR ripp_@chitter.xyz

                                        @ehashman Unfortunately we use it at work, though I already do not use it at home.
                                        I will bring this up though if I can find the time and channels

                                        ehashman@cloudisland.nzE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #24

                                        @Ripp_ best of luck! I'm sure enterprise accounts will be even more influential

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                                        • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                                          Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                                          It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

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                                          #25

                                          @ehashman I actually stopped giving them money a while ago. I'm still using the last version that could be purchased (v7?), and never moved to a subscription.

                                          Of course, that's getting a little annoying now. I guess the obvious solution is to move to bitwarden? Or use whatever's built in to my browser or MacOS?

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