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  3. Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging.

Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging.

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  • alahmnat@woof.techA alahmnat@woof.tech

    @becomingwisest At least as far as the non-password stuff goes (secure notes, documents, credit cards, license keys, etc.), if you're in the Apple ecosystem I saw folks recommending Uplock back in February when they announced they were raising prices by 33%.

    I'm also given to understand that 1Password doesn't have a means for exporting/transferring passkeys, so you'll need to keep it around long enough to set any of those up from scratch. Otherwise, the password export process worked fine, and on the Mac I think you can even do it without having to export to CSV. I'm not at my Mac right now to be able to recall exactly how that process works, though, and it's been a few months since I did it myself.

    scott@sfba.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @alahmnat @becomingwisest Thanks for sharing this! Uplock looks nice. I recently moved from 1Password to Proton Pass — ruling out Apple Passwords because I'm trying to diversify (anticipating one day needing to leave the Apple ecosystem entirely).

    But yesterday I learned of equally problematic things done by one of the Proton founders sooooo… ughhhhh

    I think my options are either Apple Passwords + Uplock (which look nice for now, but increase my dependency on iCloud, which I'll have to undo later) or self-hosting something like @aliasvault or @passbolt, my current top two picks.

    Good luck, everyone!

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    • micdan@mstdn.partyM micdan@mstdn.party

      @ehashman Thank God I never used 1P in the first place. :'p

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      #11

      @micdan @ehashman Same here.

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      • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

        Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

        It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

        thedoh@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @ehashman I spent my afternoon starting in on containerizing https://codeberg.org/ChiPass/ChiPass as part of the process to terminate an 18 year relationship with @1password

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        • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

          Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

          It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

          mtconleyuk@mastodonapp.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @ehashman
          AI, Electron, violations of macOS UI conventions, and now hanging out with Nazis.

          Interesting that the rank and file don’t seem to be happy about this; I wonder whether any will walk.

          Anyway, time to look elsewhere.

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          • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

            Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

            It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

            ahhhhhhhhhhh@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @ehashman if anyone needs a new password manager.... Just use keepass with WebDAV. Why put your hand on a new stove by going to 'another online service'?

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            • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

              @alahmnat @becomingwisest Thanks for sharing this! Uplock looks nice. I recently moved from 1Password to Proton Pass — ruling out Apple Passwords because I'm trying to diversify (anticipating one day needing to leave the Apple ecosystem entirely).

              But yesterday I learned of equally problematic things done by one of the Proton founders sooooo… ughhhhh

              I think my options are either Apple Passwords + Uplock (which look nice for now, but increase my dependency on iCloud, which I'll have to undo later) or self-hosting something like @aliasvault or @passbolt, my current top two picks.

              Good luck, everyone!

              bss@social.coopB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @scott

              https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

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              • sycophantic@infosec.exchangeS sycophantic@infosec.exchange

                @ehashman sucks you can't export passkeys

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                #16

                @sycophantic you should be able to if you are on 1PW v8 and you’re going to a manager that supports FIDO CXP (I’m looking at BitWarden right now)

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                • ahhhhhhhhhhh@mastodon.socialA ahhhhhhhhhhh@mastodon.social

                  @ehashman if anyone needs a new password manager.... Just use keepass with WebDAV. Why put your hand on a new stove by going to 'another online service'?

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                  #17

                  @ahhhhhhhhhhh @ehashman

                  I started using Keepass after I saw Bruce Schneier recommend it.

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                  • standev@mstdn.socialS standev@mstdn.social

                    @sycophantic you should be able to if you are on 1PW v8 and you’re going to a manager that supports FIDO CXP (I’m looking at BitWarden right now)

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                    #18

                    @sycophantic (here’s a howto) https://www.1password.community/1password-at-home-31/how-to-migrate-1password-vaults-to-bitwarden-folders-with-passkeys-using-ios-26-cxp-24135

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                    • w_b@mastodon.worldW w_b@mastodon.world

                      @ahhhhhhhhhhh @ehashman

                      I started using Keepass after I saw Bruce Schneier recommend it.

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                      #19

                      @w_b @ehashman its the only password manager I have every used. Mainly because to begin with it was the only password manager around. Ahh the days of trucrypt.

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                      • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                        Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                        It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

                        ehashman@cloudisland.nzE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        Long shot but: if you're a 1Password employee and you want to talk about what's happening, DM me for my Signal!

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                        • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                          Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                          It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

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                          #21

                          @ehashman well, we are calling him evil, because he's evil

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                          • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                            Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                            It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

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                            #22

                            @ehashman suggest you read this linked article on Proton
                            https://social.coop/@bss/117198034295516413

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                            • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                              Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                              It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

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                              #23

                              @ehashman Unfortunately we use it at work, though I already do not use it at home.
                              I will bring this up though if I can find the time and channels

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                              • ripp_@chitter.xyzR ripp_@chitter.xyz

                                @ehashman Unfortunately we use it at work, though I already do not use it at home.
                                I will bring this up though if I can find the time and channels

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                                #24

                                @Ripp_ best of luck! I'm sure enterprise accounts will be even more influential

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                                • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                                  Alright folks, it looks like the #1Password execs aren't budging. Their co-founder is framing critics of DHH as calling him "evil," saying this is "unfair" and creating a chilling environment. This is a nonsense response to critique of a man who has called for ethnic cleansing. https://www.theverge.com/tech/988536/1password-dhh-linux-controversy

                                  It's time to #Drop1Password. Cancel your subscription and share a screenshot. Tell them why you're cancelling. You will not lose access to your service until your subscription expires, giving the 1Password team the opportunity to reverse their sponsorship and/or you time to migrate.

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                                  #25

                                  @ehashman I actually stopped giving them money a while ago. I'm still using the last version that could be purchased (v7?), and never moved to a subscription.

                                  Of course, that's getting a little annoying now. I guess the obvious solution is to move to bitwarden? Or use whatever's built in to my browser or MacOS?

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                                  • csk@mathstodon.xyzC csk@mathstodon.xyz

                                    @ehashman I actually stopped giving them money a while ago. I'm still using the last version that could be purchased (v7?), and never moved to a subscription.

                                    Of course, that's getting a little annoying now. I guess the obvious solution is to move to bitwarden? Or use whatever's built in to my browser or MacOS?

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                                    #26

                                    @csk If you're all in on the Apple ecosystem I hear the password manager is quite nice

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                                    • ehashman@cloudisland.nzE ehashman@cloudisland.nz

                                      @csk If you're all in on the Apple ecosystem I hear the password manager is quite nice

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                                      #27

                                      @csk someone shared this how-to guide in one of my replies https://9to5mac.com/2026/02/25/heres-how-to-switch-from-1password-to-apple-passwords/

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                                      • becomingwisest@hachyderm.ioB becomingwisest@hachyderm.io

                                        @ehashman I need to figure out the steps to import/compare with what I have in Apple passwords. And what stuff doesn’t import.

                                        Starting points for me/others.

                                        How much of https://1password.com/compare/apple-passwords-vs-1password is still true, or applies to me.

                                        https://9to5mac.com/2026/02/25/heres-how-to-switch-from-1password-to-apple-passwords/ seems simple:

                                        Export your passwords from 1Password

                                        Open and unlock the 1Password app on your Mac

                                        From the menubar, File > Export and select the account you want to export

                                        Enter your account password

                                        When asked to choose a format, choose CSV and select Export Data

                                        Choose where you want to export your 1Password data and select open

                                        Import your passwords into Apple Passwords

                                        Open the Passwords app and authenticate

                                        From the menubar, File > Import passwords from file

                                        Select the CSV file

                                        Securely delete the CSV file

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                                        #28

                                        @becomingwisest @ehashman I did this conversion a few months ago. There are some things different about the way Apple thinks about passwords, so there's stuff to get used to. The process of letting Apple fill the password is clunky. It will keep the url of the site; but you don't see that in the browser extension, so you have two steps where 1P had one. Apple I think won't let you have two different urls on the same site, it trims off all the subfolder stuff.

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                                        • adardis@mstdn.socialA adardis@mstdn.social

                                          @becomingwisest @ehashman I did this conversion a few months ago. There are some things different about the way Apple thinks about passwords, so there's stuff to get used to. The process of letting Apple fill the password is clunky. It will keep the url of the site; but you don't see that in the browser extension, so you have two steps where 1P had one. Apple I think won't let you have two different urls on the same site, it trims off all the subfolder stuff.

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                                          #29

                                          @becomingwisest @ehashman Apple will sometimes ask if you want to update the password after you've successfully used a password. Maybe there's something about that I'm not understanding.

                                          Apple's program synchronizes across your devices and family shares. But it takes an unreal amount of time. I changed my work password last week and it took more than 24 hours for the change to propagate fully.

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