Is it genocide denial to refuse to use the word "genocide" for Gaza?

[ajhalili2006@tilde.zone]

@evan Do you mind if I ask the people on the Atmosphere side of the open social web for thoughts (via @FromTheBSHQ / @thebloodyhellph.pp.ua)by manually cross-posting the thing for visibility?

[fromthebshq@mstdn.social]

@2_Beers @evan had to reply here instead of via main (context: @ajhalili2006), but a bit of diabolical take/statement for someone like me where its country experienced the same horrors of colonialism as Palestine, but care to elaborate further?

[ajhalili2006@tilde.zone]

@evan @FromTheBSHQ @thebloodyhellph.pp.ua Did the thing: https://bsky.app/profile/thebloodyhellph.pp.ua/post/3mp7fnhepe22f

[evan@cosocial.ca]

@ajhalili2006 @FromTheBSHQ @thebloodyhellph.pp.ua not at all, please do

[evan@cosocial.ca]

@malte thank you!

[malte@radikal.social]

@renata That's the great thing about polls. They give you some evidence to consider instead of just relying on what we think is possible. @evan

[2_beers@don.linxx.net]

@FromTheBSHQ @evan @ajhalili2006 when was Palestine colonialized? 1920?

[emc2@indieweb.social]

@evan

Genocide is an extraordinarily strong charge, and I think there remains a case to say "I don't know enough at this point to support such a charge" (which is not denying it either). However, I think the charge of ethnic cleansing is incontrovertible.

[evan@cosocial.ca]

@emc2 at which point does epistemological humility turn into denialism? When do you transition from a skeptical, evidence-based thinker into a monster? Have we passed that point with Gaza yet?

[emc2@indieweb.social]

@evan

Rule of thumb, I think, is "are the skills required to have an informed opinion those of a historian, or more those of an intelligence analyst?"

More formally, this is the issue of probability vs. certainty.

[malte@radikal.social]

@evan There's this article too with good supportive evidence t how genocide denial works in the specific case of Gaza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide_denial