Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it?
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@Mimesatwork @Petesmom @emilymbender I don't entirely agree. Corpus/corpora is widely used in science to describe bodies of text etc. put together as a basis for research. Adopting it for this use - which is already a reality among the professionals in this field - does not seem like a long shot to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus
And BTW if you object to 'corpus', you should also have a problem with 'generation', which for lay people will refer either to successive generations of people, or to generating electricity. 'Generating' text or imagery or other output is fairly new and specialized and not yet common in the general language.
@martinvermeer @Petesmom @emilymbender I mean I do have minor issues with "generating" too. it's just that alternative common words for producing something that wouldn't have any biological connection at all are scarce.
Corpus may be widely used in science, but most people interacting with machines or AIs are not scientists.
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@emilymbender wait til we give human names to robots, like pets
@iamnotU @emilymbender well, people are talking about "chatty"
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender yes! So annoyed! Thank you for this.
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
While the idea is nice, the words you propose are too long and complicated. Saying "probabilistic, unverified software manipulator" is a tongue twister by itself.
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@Mimesatwork @Petesmom @emilymbender
Some ideas. For AI in general, we could use 'corpus-based generation', like language, image, action, speech generation. What is characteristic for current AI is how they are built using these large bodies of (often stolen) 'stuff', typically from the Internet.
I have a problem with 'undesirable output' for hallucination. Too vague for me. The undesirability is invariably a failure to be factually correct, which is what users expect from AI, an expectation that is both unreasonable and unwise for a language tool - but also real. Let's make that explicit: a 'factuality violation'.
@martinvermeer @emilymbender @Petesmom @Mimesatwork
Undesirable output doesn’t feel right for me either, bur factuality violation has a connotation that all other output is factual right. I would approach it from a control system view (yes, I’m an engineer :-P) and call it error accumulation or windup. -
Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender Thanks! Going to organise a very necessary discussion in the fablab community about probabilistic systems and this helps a lot.
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender yes finding human pronouns a misfit. "It" nearly works but animals can be it. I'm experimenting with ko/kör (2nd) and zo/ze/zy (1st), so I have standing instructions for the LLM to produce e.g. "let ze generate this", "Zo generated that" and I respond chance kor approach. They are reminiscent to me of mathematical terms. Just a personal experiment.
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@emilymbender also things like "predictive [text] slot-machine" have come up
I am _so_ going to use "predictive [text] slot-machine"
In Spain we call slot machines "tragaperras" which translates roughly to "coin swallowers".
I think it also fits.
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender now I so want the same resource in French.
I've been struggling with exactly this
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@emilymbender now I so want the same resource in French.
I've been struggling with exactly this
@toadjaune Je crois que les mêmes stratégies doivent fonctionner assez bien.
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@emilymbender
You had me at probabilistic, unverified software manipulator.@kevinashworth PUSMic FTW!
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender I did an AI training yesterday and the trainer referred to his various Copilot agents as "he" and "she." Would that be considered at all anthropomorphizing language?
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@emilymbender I did an AI training yesterday and the trainer referred to his various Copilot agents as "he" and "she." Would that be considered at all anthropomorphizing language?
@strange_new_words yes, as described in the linked post under names and pronouns.
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@strange_new_words yes, as described in the linked post under names and pronouns.
@emilymbender Yes, I'm reading it now. Stupid me for assuming anything would be too flagrant to be included.
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@emilymbender wait til we give human names to robots, like pets
@iamnotU @emilymbender To be fair, I've been naming my computers for decades now
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@iamnotU @emilymbender To be fair, I've been naming my computers for decades now
@kelson @emilymbender I've been calling my computer names for decades now
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender "synthetic text extruding machine" is a mouthful, but is also very funny yet very fitting
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Are you annoyed with the anthropomorphizing language being used in the "AI" discourse, but not sure how to talk about this stuff without it? Nanna Inie and I have got you covered:
https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/how-to-talk-about-ai-without-adding-to-the/
@emilymbender
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Call it LLM, because "AI" is a marketing proposition.@Imprinted Wow -- did you reply without reading the newsletter in the post you're responding to or did you read it and decide that you needed to share this wisdom with me?
