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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    @liaizon yes, Clearsky may not be the best designed website, but it's SO USEFUL!

    @Gina @hbons @shemjm @EUCommission

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    #39

    @_elena @liaizon @Gina @hbons @EUCommission yeah after I posted that message, I thought "oh no what if that's something someone made by themselves" 🤣

    I originally thought it was W social or Blue sky

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

      The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

      I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

      My articles on them:

      🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

      Wow. Just wow.

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      #40

      @_elena @EUCommission @gavinkarlmeier

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

        The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

        I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

        My articles on them:

        🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

        Wow. Just wow.

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        cool_day@mastodon.social
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        #41

        @_elena Mastodon is not really not based in one country or one company like other social networks so putting the Mastodon in that map would be misleading (probably not what they were thinking though).

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
          - I was given some information on background, confidentially
          - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

          Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

          Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

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          #42

          @_elena huh, so that's what W Social is up to - I could be convinced on a network with verified real name policy but that combined with AI training, urgh!

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
            - I was given some information on background, confidentially
            - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

            Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

            Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

            jsalvador@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            jsalvador@mastodon.social
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            #43

            @_elena thanks for your service Elena, I was getting an eye on WSocial since it started and people was defending it as "the European bluesky", which always sounded weird to me.

            I should've thought they were going to be this kind of shit eventually...

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

              The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

              I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

              My articles on them:

              🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

              Wow. Just wow.

              bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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              bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #44

              @_elena @EUCommission it is baffling to me that they are not using Mastodon (EU instance) as their primary communication tool.

              I hear the argument a lot that Mastodon is lacking reach but the instance could literally treated like a government website where the "reach" argument wouldn't count anyways.

              _elena@mastodon.social_ naturemc@mastodon.onlineN mabande@mastodon.socialM 3 Replies Last reply
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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                My articles on them:

                🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                Wow. Just wow.

                phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                phl@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #45

                @_elena @EUCommission Entirely unexpected move from von der Leyen /s

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                • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

                  @_elena @EUCommission On the ATmosphere, I have a Eurosky account. It may be better, but they just launched a new ATproto Web interface which requires age declaration...

                  phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #46

                  @bortzmeyer @_elena @EUCommission UuuuUUuuuggggh.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                    - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                    - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                    Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                    Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                    juliano@organica.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    juliano@organica.social
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                    #47

                    @_elena hell yeah, please!

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
                      - I was given some information on background, confidentially
                      - I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

                      Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

                      Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

                      b3lt3r@mastodon.b3lt3r.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      b3lt3r@mastodon.b3lt3r.com
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                      #48

                      @_elena yes you do need to keep the info coming!

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                      • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                        @_elena @EUCommission Entirely unexpected move from von der Leyen /s

                        leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se
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                        #49

                        @phl @_elena @EUCommission 😢

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                          The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                          I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                          My articles on them:

                          🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                          Wow. Just wow.

                          numerfolt@kirche.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          numerfolt@kirche.social
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                          #50

                          @_elena @EUCommission What the heck?!?

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                          • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                            @phl @_elena @EUCommission 😢

                            bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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                            #51

                            @leanderlindahl @phl @_elena @EUCommission Ugh... Very frustrating. Corporate lobbying at its finest.

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                            • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                              @_elena @Razemix but W is just a PDS rn, which is very simple to set up I'm following many kids who are running their own.

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                              aslakr@mastodon.social
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                              #52

                              @liaizon @_elena @Razemix It seems like it's a bit inconsistent. vonderleyen https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb#identity and ec.europa.eu https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy#identity uses W, while e.g. jessikaroswall https://atproto.at/uri/at://did:plc:7jh367ofh36xyxb7mpu7xigi#identity uses bsky.

                              On Blacksky vonderleyen https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:wr6esgkuixhvsge3ueraz6yb and ec.europa.eu https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:oxo226vi7t2btjokm2buusoy apears like they are currently deactivated.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                My articles on them:

                                🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                Wow. Just wow.

                                immy@equestria.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                immy@equestria.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #53

                                @_elena @EUCommission Ugh, I really hate all of this political signalling around "European tech". I don't think this will be the last time we see the fallout caused by being more concerned about what's "European" than what's actually good for citizens

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  Dear Fedi friends,

                                  Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                  The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                  I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                  My articles on them:

                                  🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                  Wow. Just wow.

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #54

                                  @_elena I'm reading your newer blog post and the video from the AI Monaco Conference is no longer available because “This video has been removed by the uploader“. I guess they have seen your post and acted.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                    The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                    I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                    My articles on them:

                                    🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                    Wow. Just wow.

                                    tyil@fedi.tyil.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #55
                                    @_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
                                    I cannot fathom why
                                    Its not that difficult, these people don't give a single shit about you, freedom, or democracy. They are pure, unadulterated evil. They do not deserve more chances, they need to be eradicated.
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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                      The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                      I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                      My articles on them:

                                      🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                      Wow. Just wow.

                                      njyo@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      njyo@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #56

                                      @_elena @floe

                                      It’s not really a surprise, is it? The same @EUCommission that keeps talking about “consumers” instead of “people” and “markets” instead of “societies”?

                                      The EU started as an economic union and until we force it to change into a true union of people and human values, it’s simply better than nothing.

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                                      • passenger@kolektiva.socialP passenger@kolektiva.social

                                        @_elena @EUCommission

                                        I remember when W was announced, the things they emphasised were:

                                        A) "Now Europeans can be the information gatekeepers too!"

                                        B) "Now Europeans can harvest data too!"

                                        It's as if they looked at facebook and twitter and focused on the very worst aspects of them as what they wanted to reproduce, rather than on the basic humans-talking-to-humans aspect.

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                                        #57

                                        @passenger @_elena Turns out the most sovereign thing is to have your own poison generators, imagine if a different country was doing it.

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          Dear Fedi friends,

                                          Apologies for another toot about #WSocial but I am genuinely shaking right now.

                                          The @EUCommission and its president Ursula von der Leyen have recently migrated their ATproto (Bluesky) accounts to W Social.

                                          I cannot fathom why they would pick a private enterprise whose leaders didn't even have ATproto accounts 3 months ago... and who are so open to having their users' data mined to train European AI models.

                                          My articles on them:

                                          🔗 : https://blog.elenarossini.com/tag/w-social/

                                          Wow. Just wow.

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                                          luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #58

                                          @_elena @EUCommission
                                          Politics is about managing the largest group of individuals in a community with the smallest sense of reality in that community.

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