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i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

    zlatko@social.zlatko.devZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #37

    @eniko and none of this broken shit

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    • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

      @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

      As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

      #software #softwaredevelopment

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      #38

      @badtux @eniko Maybe that's the appeal of VBA? I never made the move from VB6 to VB.net, so no idea how stable that is. VBA seems to keep on trucking as it is.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

        rhempel@cosocial.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #39

        @eniko If you are asking for less you are asking too much 😉

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        • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net
          @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
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          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #40

          @me @eniko Substitute any other language or framework in large scale use for Java. Go? Rust? JavaScript/TypeScript? Even where the language is stable the frameworks you have to use to get work done are as firm as gelatin.

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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            #41

            @eniko and at the same time, companies hire people who prefer AI, f̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶agile; or as the saying goes, seniors with salary of a junior 🙂

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

              archivescribe@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #42

              @eniko The dream that we deserve!

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #43

                @eniko I picked up Tinystart for the Mac by @nileane which is probably exactly the sort of thing you’re after. It’s as useful as Raycast but without all the VC and AI bollocks, and only costs a fiver.

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                  gabs@mastodonapp.ukG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #44

                  @eniko bring back rating code by size.

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                  • tobiwankenobi@kolektiva.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #45

                    @eniko

                    The general rule of thumb seems to be: The further you go back in time, the better the products, be they online or offline.

                    All courtesy of the fucked-up neoliberal capitalism that's festering across the whole world.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                      renardboy@mastodon.social
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #46

                      @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                      • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                        @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                        #47

                        @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

                        I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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                        • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                          @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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                          #48

                          @badtux @eniko
                          Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                            #49

                            @eniko
                            I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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                            • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

                              @me @badtux @eniko
                              It's like building on quicksand.

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                              #50

                              @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
                              ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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                                #51

                                @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                  #52

                                  @eniko Agreed.

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                                    #53

                                    @datarama @eniko

                                    100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

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                                    • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                                      @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                                      As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                                      #software #softwaredevelopment

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                                      #54

                                      @badtux
                                      I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
                                      @eniko

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                        #55

                                        @eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                          #56

                                          @eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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