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  3. i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net
    @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
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    #40

    @me @eniko Substitute any other language or framework in large scale use for Java. Go? Rust? JavaScript/TypeScript? Even where the language is stable the frameworks you have to use to get work done are as firm as gelatin.

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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      #41

      @eniko and at the same time, companies hire people who prefer AI, f̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶agile; or as the saying goes, seniors with salary of a junior 🙂

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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        #42

        @eniko The dream that we deserve!

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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          #43

          @eniko I picked up Tinystart for the Mac by @nileane which is probably exactly the sort of thing you’re after. It’s as useful as Raycast but without all the VC and AI bollocks, and only costs a fiver.

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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            #44

            @eniko bring back rating code by size.

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              #45

              @eniko

              The general rule of thumb seems to be: The further you go back in time, the better the products, be they online or offline.

              All courtesy of the fucked-up neoliberal capitalism that's festering across the whole world.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                #46

                @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                  @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                  #47

                  @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

                  I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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                  • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                    @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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                    #48

                    @badtux @eniko
                    Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                      #49

                      @eniko
                      I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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                      • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

                        @me @badtux @eniko
                        It's like building on quicksand.

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                        #50

                        @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
                        ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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                          #51

                          @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                            #52

                            @eniko Agreed.

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                              #53

                              @datarama @eniko

                              100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

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                              • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                                @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                                As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                                #software #softwaredevelopment

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                                #54

                                @badtux
                                I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
                                @eniko

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                  #55

                                  @eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                    #56

                                    @eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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                                      #57

                                      @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I do not only want my toaster to be part of a botnet, I want my toaster to not have electronics AT ALL.

                                      There is no reason for my fridge, toaster or oven to have a microcontroller. Really, we've been doing these things a century and today we seem to default to adding microcontrollers to everything.

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                        #58

                                        @eniko
                                        isnt þe unix philosophy "every program should do one job and do it well"? can we just make þat law? i would love a world where every program solved / did one þing i wanted and nþn else.

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                                          #59

                                          @bencourtice @eniko
                                          I still call programs for desktop use programs. "App" for me is a word for mobile device programs.

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