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  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

    Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

    You simply don’t need to.

    You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

    Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

    The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

    And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

    #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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    luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #8

    @aral @_elena That's really embarrassing, for any European.

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

      Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

      You simply don’t need to.

      You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

      Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

      The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

      And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

      #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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      berserked_pt@masto.pt
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #9

      @aral @_elena
      I took a peak on Wedium (the insta/tiktok euro competitor) because I always like to test stuff instead of just criticizing. I wanted to test a post, first thing I got asked was to identify with webID. Uninstalled it and deleted the email alias I created for it. 😅

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      • berserked_pt@masto.ptB berserked_pt@masto.pt

        @aral @_elena
        I took a peak on Wedium (the insta/tiktok euro competitor) because I always like to test stuff instead of just criticizing. I wanted to test a post, first thing I got asked was to identify with webID. Uninstalled it and deleted the email alias I created for it. 😅

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        _elena@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #10

        @BerserkEd_PT they had huge security issues recently (EXIF data being leaked). @Katika wrote about this I think? (I can't find the toot)

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        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

          Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

          You simply don’t need to.

          You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

          Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

          The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

          And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

          #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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          hyblon@social.vivaldi.net
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #11

          @aral @_elena and beside that AT proto is not privacy friendly.

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          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

            Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

            You simply don’t need to.

            You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

            Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

            The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

            And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

            #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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            cipper@mastodon.uno
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #12

            @aral @_elena

            I think there would be reasonable use case for this tool, not for social networking but as replacement for schools and institutions that presently rely on GAFAM services.

            Instead of having school communications on Telegram or Whatsapp, having an institutional channel would be much better.

            Beside that, the best part of social networking is to stay anonymous and interact with unknown people, not for misbehaving, but rather to speak freely.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @BerserkEd_PT they had huge security issues recently (EXIF data being leaked). @Katika wrote about this I think? (I can't find the toot)

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              berserked_pt@masto.pt
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #13

              @_elena @Katika even if didn't had a leak I wouldn't do it, in my opinion the more info a person delivers, the bigger risk of a leak. If ID ends up something needed for all networks, it will be when I simply delete them all 🤣

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                You simply don’t need to.

                You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                glaswolf@mastodon.scot
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #14

                @aral @_elena My favourite von der Leyen moment.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSqb1ckLt4

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                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                  Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                  You simply don’t need to.

                  You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                  Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                  The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                  And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                  #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                  disisdeguey@expressional.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #15

                  @aral @_elena Also anything, ANYTHING, promoted by ziovonderleyer ita a NO, NO,NO.
                  #UECorrupt

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                  • glaswolf@mastodon.scotG glaswolf@mastodon.scot

                    @aral @_elena My favourite von der Leyen moment.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSqb1ckLt4

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                    disisdeguey@expressional.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #16

                    @GlasWolf @aral @_elena Never forget, never forgive what she is.

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                      You simply don’t need to.

                      You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                      Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                      The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                      And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                      #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                      whasdah@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #17

                      @aral @_elena I don't really understand the tone of your comments for this European initiative. I'm surely not saying this is the right answer but if #mastodon is so far more superior, why weren't there more efforts past two years to make it really sustainable. Relying on goodwilling citizens time, effort and money to keep up instances, is not the answer. By doing so, unfortunately, it's doomed to stay on the side, because you know, none of the people I know are here too. The #EU ís, by the way.

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                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                        Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                        You simply don’t need to.

                        You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                        Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                        The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                        And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                        #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                        xchaos@f.cz
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #18

                        @aral @_elena I am not sure if my trolling will be helpful, but:

                        I would never even heard about W if not for your statuses here. Just saying...

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                        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                          Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                          You simply don’t need to.

                          You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                          Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                          The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                          And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                          #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                          hummingbird8009@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #19

                          @aral @_elena W Social triggers the "good" old face-to-face artificial compliance via "real-ID" check Anonymity is not a bug to fix but a part of our human evolution For 35 years nicknames have protected the raw "I am" by letting oppressed thoughts & feelings be expressed After 2 generations of digital scars the 3rd generation will be developing immunity Identifying both the trolls & the oppressed victims of societal norms May the 3rd generation be allowed to be itself, not a puppet

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                          • xchaos@f.czX xchaos@f.cz

                            @aral @_elena I am not sure if my trolling will be helpful, but:

                            I would never even heard about W if not for your statuses here. Just saying...

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                            _elena@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #20

                            @xChaos @aral the European Commission is openly embracing W Social and von der Leyen took time out of her G7 meetings to promote W!

                            This is not a drill.

                            I think the EC sees this as a trial run for a possible mandatory social media age verification across the European Union. We must pay attention and resist.

                            This is an existential threat to the Fediverse as a whole (which doesn't have systems in place to comply with age verification).

                            RESIST & SPEAK UP

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                            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                              Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                              You simply don’t need to.

                              You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                              Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                              The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                              And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                              #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                              kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #21

                              @aral@mastodon.ar.al im gonna be honest, if someone saw “🇪🇺 European!” listed as a selling point for a social networking website, and actually found that more appealing than the Fediverse rather than repulsive, i would not stop them. They should sign up for W. They should join the fellow white supremacists on that website, they should join the EU nationalists on the Certified Aryan Social Network. i do not want them on my fedi they can go away

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                              • whasdah@mastodon.socialW whasdah@mastodon.social

                                @aral @_elena I don't really understand the tone of your comments for this European initiative. I'm surely not saying this is the right answer but if #mastodon is so far more superior, why weren't there more efforts past two years to make it really sustainable. Relying on goodwilling citizens time, effort and money to keep up instances, is not the answer. By doing so, unfortunately, it's doomed to stay on the side, because you know, none of the people I know are here too. The #EU ís, by the way.

                                johntinker@hear-me.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                johntinker@hear-me.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #22

                                @whasdah @aral @_elena
                                I disagree with your "not the answer" argument. I think goodwill is THE main ingredient of all good things.

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                                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                  Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                                  You simply don’t need to.

                                  You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                                  Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                                  The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                                  And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                                  #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                                  johan@social.codefor.nl
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #23

                                  @aral @_elena 🤣

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                                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                    Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                                    You simply don’t need to.

                                    You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                                    Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                                    The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                                    And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                                    #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                                    spottyfox@pounced-on.me
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #24

                                    @aral This is the first time I've heard of it

                                    Also, calling it W is super lazy

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                                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                      Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                                      You simply don’t need to.

                                      You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                                      Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                                      The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                                      And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                                      #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                                      violet0461@shonk.violet0461.de
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #25

                                      @aral@mastodon.ar.al @_elena@mastodon.social wsocial identification app has THIS in their privacy policy:

                                      5. Recipients and Sharing of Personal Data
                                      5.1 Processors
                                      We use third-party service providers that process personal data on our behalf under data processing agreements. These may include hosting providers, email providers, document verification providers, phone number verification providers, infrastructure providers, support providers and security service providers.
                                      These providers may only process personal data according to our documented instructions and must protect the data in accordance with applicable data protection law.
                                      5.2 Trust Anchor Group
                                      Trust Anchor Group AB acts as a processor on our behalf. Trust Anchor Group maintains neuron server infrastructure used in the verification process and may perform manual reviews for us where automatic verification cannot be completed.
                                      Where manual review is required, the reviewer may access the data necessary to complete the review. This may include passport image, selfie image, year of birth, nationality, verification status, and the reason why automatic verification could not be completed. If the passport image is not technically masked, the reviewer may also be able to see other information visible on the passport image.

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                                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                        Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                                        You simply don’t need to.

                                        You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                                        Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                                        The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                                        And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                                        #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                                        gharbeia@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #26

                                        @aral @_elena
                                        If this achieves network effect, they might even move in the future to outlaw the Fediverse's clients, protecting their interests, while citing protecting children/public interest.

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                                        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                          Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                                          You simply don’t need to.

                                          You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                                          Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                                          The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                                          And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                                          #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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                                          xenophora@mastodon.art
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #27

                                          @aral @_elena@mastodon.social

                                          Why was this needed? Everyone’s already sick of BlueSky? lol

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