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  • whasdah@mastodon.socialW whasdah@mastodon.social

    @aral @_elena I don't really understand the tone of your comments for this European initiative. I'm surely not saying this is the right answer but if #mastodon is so far more superior, why weren't there more efforts past two years to make it really sustainable. Relying on goodwilling citizens time, effort and money to keep up instances, is not the answer. By doing so, unfortunately, it's doomed to stay on the side, because you know, none of the people I know are here too. The #EU ís, by the way.

    johntinker@hear-me.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #22

    @whasdah @aral @_elena
    I disagree with your "not the answer" argument. I think goodwill is THE main ingredient of all good things.

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

      Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

      You simply don’t need to.

      You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

      Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

      The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

      And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

      #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

      johan@social.codefor.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
      johan@social.codefor.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
      johan@social.codefor.nl
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      #23

      @aral @_elena 🤣

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      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

        Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

        You simply don’t need to.

        You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

        Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

        The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

        And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

        #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

        spottyfox@pounced-on.meS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24

        @aral This is the first time I've heard of it

        Also, calling it W is super lazy

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        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

          Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

          You simply don’t need to.

          You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

          Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

          The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

          And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

          #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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          violet0461@shonk.violet0461.deV This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #25

          @aral@mastodon.ar.al @_elena@mastodon.social wsocial identification app has THIS in their privacy policy:

          5. Recipients and Sharing of Personal Data
          5.1 Processors
          We use third-party service providers that process personal data on our behalf under data processing agreements. These may include hosting providers, email providers, document verification providers, phone number verification providers, infrastructure providers, support providers and security service providers.
          These providers may only process personal data according to our documented instructions and must protect the data in accordance with applicable data protection law.
          5.2 Trust Anchor Group
          Trust Anchor Group AB acts as a processor on our behalf. Trust Anchor Group maintains neuron server infrastructure used in the verification process and may perform manual reviews for us where automatic verification cannot be completed.
          Where manual review is required, the reviewer may access the data necessary to complete the review. This may include passport image, selfie image, year of birth, nationality, verification status, and the reason why automatic verification could not be completed. If the passport image is not technically masked, the reviewer may also be able to see other information visible on the passport image.

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          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

            Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

            You simply don’t need to.

            You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

            Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

            The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

            And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

            #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

            gharbeia@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #26

            @aral @_elena
            If this achieves network effect, they might even move in the future to outlaw the Fediverse's clients, protecting their interests, while citing protecting children/public interest.

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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

              You simply don’t need to.

              You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

              Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

              The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

              And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

              #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

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              #27

              @aral @_elena@mastodon.social

              Why was this needed? Everyone’s already sick of BlueSky? lol

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                You simply don’t need to.

                You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

                hc@mastodon.africaH This user is from outside of this forum
                hc@mastodon.africaH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @aral @_elena I welcome anything that competes with X - not that I will sign up. The more fragmented the better.

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                • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net shared this topic
                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                  Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                  You simply don’t need to.

                  You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                  Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                  The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                  And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                  #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

                  kkarhan@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #29

                  @aral @_elena people who commit to and normlaize #SelfDoxxing are the worst #UsefulIdiots there could be!

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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                    You simply don’t need to.

                    You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                    Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                    The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                    And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                    #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

                    magisternavis@nrw.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    magisternavis@nrw.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #30

                    @aral Never heard about that dabblyou

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      Needless to say, do not sign up for W or give them your ID information no matter how simple they eventually manage to make it.

                      You simply don’t need to.

                      You’re already in a far superior – non-corporate, federated – space.

                      Do not sign up for W. And warn your friends.

                      The only time you have any power to stop this is now. If they succeed in gaining network effects, you will be as powerless to stop them as you are with X.

                      And yes, they’re just another venture capital funded surveillance capitalist, people farmer, and burgeoning Nazi Bar. They just happen to be based in the EU. (As Nazi Bars traditionally have been.)

                      #WSocial #NoWNoX #surveillance #capitalism #BigTech #VC @_elena https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116770291207686239

                      joho@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      joho@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #31

                      @aral

                      "Oh, look, yet another closed platform I don't want to be on" 🙄

                      Why would anyone sign up for W when there's Mastodon, Pixelfed, GoToSocial, Matrix/Synapse, and even bsky ... 🤔

                      Thank you, but ... I'd rather swallow rusty nails.

                      Ursula needs to get a grip. If anyone knows here, I'll be happy to have a sit-down with her and explain how this sh*t really works.

                      @_elena

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