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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    @xrobau @colinburgess yeah I wish I had a way to peek behind it but obfuscating the actual source is kinda the whole point, to avoid load on the origin

    colinburgess@mastodon.nzC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

      Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

      But their map is wrong.

      Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

      https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

      su_g@aus.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @ricci
      Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

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      • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

        @ricci
        Nice to see the little dot points on Australia… 🐨🦘🌏plenty of room for more! Same in Greenland… Africa… other places… Great idea to do this mapping of Fedi worlwide! 🙏🏻

        ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

          Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

          But their map is wrong.

          Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

          https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

          allanb@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @ricci Nice!

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            @Su_G there are probably more there than it looks like, some are behind CloudFlare, Fastly, etc which generally makes them look like they are in the US

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            #14

            @ricci
            Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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            • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

              @ricci
              Good to know! So it’s the minimum that we’re seeing mapped for the seemingly sparse areas. 😁👍🙏🏻

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              #15

              @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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              • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

                @ricci @xrobau hey Rob, what’s that database you added our servers to the other day? Could that be useful to Rob for locating mastodon hosts more accurately?

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                #16

                @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                • xrobau@mastodon.auX xrobau@mastodon.au

                  @colinburgess @ricci https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?region=oceania

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                  #17

                  @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

                  Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                    @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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                    #18

                    @ricci
                    😁🙏🏻

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                    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                      Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                      But their map is wrong.

                      Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                      https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                      #19

                      @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

                      Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                        Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                        But their map is wrong.

                        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                        #20

                        @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                        • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                          @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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                          #21

                          @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                            Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                            But their map is wrong.

                            Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                            https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                            #22

                            @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                              @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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                              #23

                              @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                              • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                                @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                                #24

                                @azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

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                                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                                  @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                                  #25

                                  @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                    @ricci

                                    Maybe only tech bro corporate social media sites count. 🤷

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                                    #26

                                    @mastodonmigration @ricci

                                    Not to me 🧡

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                                    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                      Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                      But their map is wrong.

                                      Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                      https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                                      supermoosie@mastodon.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #27

                                      @ricci

                                      Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                                      • supermoosie@mastodon.auS supermoosie@mastodon.au

                                        @ricci

                                        Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                                        #28

                                        @SuperMoosie @ricci

                                        Comission (that is, the EU-ministers) are. The other branches are not.

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                                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                          Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                                          But their map is wrong.

                                          Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                                          https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                                          johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #29

                                          @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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