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  3. The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.

The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

    Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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    #161

    @cwebber DNS is "decentralized" because if one server removes a domain name, you can just use another one that still has it. However this is not at all how DNSs are operated in reality & it is completely centralized. There are a few alternative DNS networks, but those are also centralized!

    What are people getting confused about here, the acronym? The "D" stands for "domain", not "decentralized".

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    • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

      @sodiboo

      Yea, decentralised and authoritarian.

      decentralised and libertarian would be e.g. Tor with .onion addresses. Which has the issue of not being able to choose the domain name (in it's entirety at least).

      centralised and libertarian would be .i2p, you (in theory) can choose who the central authority that provides the naming is yourself. Which has the issue of them potentially disagreeing (like early days when you c'n'p-ed host files)

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      #162

      @agowa338@chaos.social

      centralised and libertarian would be .i2p, you (in theory) can choose who the central authority that provides the naming is yourself.
      isn't i2p equivalent to Tor here? i2p addresses are just a public key or something?

      yes, you can choose a central naming authority to give short memorable names. congratulations, you just reinvented DNS. you can also choose not to use the ICANN root zone. see:
      OpenNIC. that's still a centralized single point of institutional failure. so isn't DNS also "libertarian" by this logic?

      (to my understanding, i2p short names are supposed to be more like personal bookmarks than a public registry. but you made it seem like it's DNS? and it's functionality similar for sure)

      ---

      Tor and I2P are decentralized in the ways that matter: there's no single organization (or N organizations) that can kick you off the network as a whole. (well, unless the entire network conspires against you; but if
      literally anyone wants to talk to you, then you can be on the network). in exchange, they don't have anything like the DNS. there's no central naming authority. the central naming authority is the hard thing to solve.

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      • lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL lunadragofelis@void.lgbt
        @cwebber @cararemixed this is one of the reasons I never want to enable HSTS on my website

        the plan for it is to be a site about myself, meltcats (my species), all my tech projects (like Kittyscript), my political views and an Akkoma instance.

        but all that the website is right now is two glorified hello world pages I wrote myself and a few redirects to them.

        yay for ADHD executive dysfunction. I'm paying €23 every month for a server I completely underutilize because I can't make myself follow plans.

        see http://lunatronex.net and http://luna.dragofelis.net
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        #163

        @LunaDragofelis @cararemixed @cwebber
        The HSTS mechanism should be reserved for sites like banking or others where exchange of sensitive information needs to be maximally secure. Question is, why even use TLS for a personal and public website made as a hobby and for fun in the first place?

        (Alright, I'd understand cases like SEO scoring and others, but that's not applicable here)

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        • aronowski@furry.engineerA aronowski@furry.engineer

          @LunaDragofelis @cararemixed @cwebber
          The HSTS mechanism should be reserved for sites like banking or others where exchange of sensitive information needs to be maximally secure. Question is, why even use TLS for a personal and public website made as a hobby and for fun in the first place?

          (Alright, I'd understand cases like SEO scoring and others, but that's not applicable here)

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          #164
          @aronowski @cararemixed @cwebber ActivityPub (what fedi instances use between each other) requires TLS as far as I know
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          • lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL lunadragofelis@void.lgbt
            @aronowski @cararemixed @cwebber ActivityPub (what fedi instances use between each other) requires TLS as far as I know
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            #165

            @LunaDragofelis @cararemixed @cwebber
            Yeah, places where authentication is needed even to log in should have it. Though a read-only cool website you're making does not... or does it?

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            • lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL lunadragofelis@void.lgbt
              @aronowski @cararemixed @cwebber ActivityPub (what fedi instances use between each other) requires TLS as far as I know
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              #166

              @LunaDragofelis @aronowski @cwebber TLS has the benefit of cutting out involuntary meddling of middle boxes (remember ad injection?). There's also safety in larger numbers regarding traffic analysis. Lots of TLS traffic doesn't look suspicious because it's perfectly normal.

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              • nukleos@mendeddrum.orgN nukleos@mendeddrum.org

                @cwebber “Antifascism and anticapitalism are not terrorism. Protesting is not terrorism. And everyone has the right to speak out and to struggle for humanity.
                Autistic/Invented Collective — “Socializing knowledge without establishing power”
                Stay human.”

                Yes, it’s worth reading the history of A/I at https://sabotmedia.noblogs.org/the-server-called-paranoia-defend-autistici-inventati-before-september-25/

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                @cwebber Also see https://theintercept.com/2026/08/28/trump-antifa-terrorist-websites-free-speech/

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                  #168

                  The hosting is distributed.

                  @lispi314 @cwebber

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                  • wonka@chaos.socialW wonka@chaos.social

                    The hosting is distributed.

                    @lispi314 @cwebber

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                    @wonka @cwebber Take down the roots and look at the entire thing instantly failing to work.

                    It's not distributed.
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                    • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
                      @wonka @cwebber Take down the roots and look at the entire thing instantly failing to work.

                      It's not distributed.
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                      #170

                      "Take down the roots" - hahaha, all of them? how? They are distributed! Not only are there 13 root server names, but their IPs are anycast and served by so much more machines at so many locations that "taking down the roots" is something you would certainly not be able to accomplish.

                      @lispi314 @cwebber

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