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The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.

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  • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

    @cwebber The countries of the world need to fundamentally understand that this will not change as long as Trump lives and the people who surround him are in power and not in prison. The world should treat its entanglements with the US with wartime urgency. The US must be made the dispensable nation. The sovereignty of every nation on the planet that does not understand this is at stake.

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    #115

    @Infoseepage @cwebber Politicians are not completely stupid. They know this, but appeasing Trump is often seen as the lesser evil, and this is not new with respect to relations with the US.

    Sticking Trump in prison is a matter for the voters in the USA, much though I like the idea. Like it or not he got voted in again, so look to fellow countrymen to address the issue.

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

      Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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      #116

      @cwebber Decentralized as in #aljazeera not resolving on #israel #DNS servers?

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

        But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

        I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

        EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

        EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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        #117

        @cwebber
        I'm trying to wrap my head around the technical process in the background. Sorry if that's a stupid question: That revocation… was it possible or easier because of .org being a US-based company? Is revoking a US-based domain name easier than others from somewhere else?

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

          Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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          #118

          Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
          @cwebber@social.coop (⚡ Akira) My system has realized this for as long we have been on fedi. 💯

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          • onemoreday@critter.cafeO onemoreday@critter.cafe

            @cwebber that is pretty crazy. any website a government doesn't like can just be removed from the Internet now apparently, simply by labeling it as terrorist propaganda

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            #119

            @onemoreday @cwebber (this has been possible forever)

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            • mikro2nd@indieweb.socialM mikro2nd@indieweb.social

              @cararemixed @cwebber That's not mitigating the centralised nature of how DNS works today, just changing the centre of authority. We need to go full fedi/p2p for name-to-address resolution, and probably (almost certainly) all the other things DNS gets (mis)used for.

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              #120

              @mikro2nd @cwebber Honestly I'm so bored with "the lets decentralize all the things" line of arguments. Go ahead, do it! Meanwhile, having alternative authorities isn't going to solve everyone's problems but it sure introduces fewer problems. My position is that only one option is the worst of all options. Having choices changes the dynamics.

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              • chishiki611@enby.lifeC chishiki611@enby.life

                Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
                @cwebber@social.coop (⚡ Akira) My system has realized this for as long we have been on fedi. 💯

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                #121

                @cwebber@social.coop (⚡) though, now I wonder if there are any truely decentralized alternatives? I initially thought IP addresses were safe enough, but the underlying mechanics (fixed-length + assigned MAC addresses) make that not as decentralized as I thought.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

                  Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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                  #122

                  @cwebber petnames when? 😉

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                  • chishiki611@enby.lifeC chishiki611@enby.life

                    Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
                    @cwebber@social.coop (⚡ Akira) My system has realized this for as long we have been on fedi. 💯

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                    #123
                    @Chishiki611 @cwebber The fact that I can't just make any TLD real without asking daddy ICANN for a licese, only for that to cost an insane amount of money, is so insane.
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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      @cararemixed "alternative DNS systems" doesn't really help though, because the TLS CA system is designed to work with the centralized view of "DNS truth"

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                      #124
                      @cwebber @cararemixed this is one of the reasons I never want to enable HSTS on my website

                      the plan for it is to be a site about myself, meltcats (my species), all my tech projects (like Kittyscript), my political views and an Akkoma instance.

                      but all that the website is right now is two glorified hello world pages I wrote myself and a few redirects to them.

                      yay for ADHD executive dysfunction. I'm paying €23 every month for a server I completely underutilize because I can't make myself follow plans.

                      see http://lunatronex.net and http://luna.dragofelis.net
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                      • alice@gts.void.dogA alice@gts.void.dog

                        @alienghic i am.. skeptical that a bunch of dorks sharing a host file is comparable to protecting someone from a fascist.
                        idk propose to register the domain name as a proxy, start your own antifascist collective and share the legal burden of this kind of work, etc. its just a bit frustrating when the 'tech crowds' focus on their ability to access a website and then lose interest.

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                        #125

                        @alice

                        Being able to talk to people outside of government propaganda is a step toward being able to resist an oppressive government.

                        Look at how much effort Putin puts into restricting what social media russians can access and all the limitations placed on gathering.

                        It's not enough, but it's a start.

                        And yes we should be doing more communication over tor, i2p, or maybe even paper.

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

                          Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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                          #126

                          @cwebber Not all of them - https://www.inventati.org is still up, but https://www.autistici.org is gone

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                          • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

                            @jens

                            the vast majority of the web is still not AI shit and while Nazis have always been allowed on the web, it has only been very recently that AI is a problem.

                            you're gonna argue that our conservative relatives should never have been allowed to use the same internet we do? that pushing them to instead use a web shared by fascists where our voices were not present would have been better for society?

                            the fedi doesn't just moderate harassment. it limits all speech that isn't progressive.

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                            #127

                            @wjmaggos I would like to introduce you to a bunch of instances I blocked, if you want to know how well "the web" moderates non-progressive views.

                            But you have a bone to pick, and from the tone, it's not with me.

                            So chill for a week.

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                            • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                              @wjmaggos I would like to introduce you to a bunch of instances I blocked, if you want to know how well "the web" moderates non-progressive views.

                              But you have a bone to pick, and from the tone, it's not with me.

                              So chill for a week.

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                              #128

                              @jens

                              we seem to be talking past each other.

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

                                Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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                                #129

                                @cwebber Noblogs.org blogs gives a timeout right now but the subdomain cavalette (which looks like a sort of status page and way to communicate with all their very many users) is still up.

                                https://cavallette.noblogs.org/

                                And https://www.inventati.org/ is also up.

                                Please edit your post. By pointing people to archive.org (who removed posts related to the Amnesty UK report story) you're not giving people the option to check out other links and older or newer posts on https://cavallette.noblogs.org/

                                Thanks in advance

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                  But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                  I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                  EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                  EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                  #130

                                  @cwebber what should I read about which TLDs can be controlled by the US government in this way?

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                                  • prism@infosec.exchangeP prism@infosec.exchange

                                    @onemoreday @cwebber You say "now" like this is a new thing https://dn.org/government-influence-on-dns-through-domain-seizures-and-takedowns/

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                                    #131

                                    @prism @cwebber that link is an excellent reminder -- i was not thinking about those incidents when i made my comment

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                                    • siblingsofthevoid@void.lgbtS siblingsofthevoid@void.lgbt
                                      @Chishiki611 @cwebber The fact that I can't just make any TLD real without asking daddy ICANN for a licese, only for that to cost an insane amount of money, is so insane.
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                                      #132

                                      @siblingsofthevoid@void.lgbt @cwebber@social.coop (⚡) same, or just making a domain without a registry.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                        But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                        I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                        EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                        EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                        #133

                                        @cwebber
                                        "Antifascism and anticapitalism are not terrorism. Protesting is not terrorism. And everyone has the right to speak out and to struggle for humanity. "

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                                        • byte@rage.loveB byte@rage.love

                                          @cwebber noblogs domain at least seems to still be accessible on my end in Europe. Do we know if this is a US specific block, or perhaps I am just getting a cached DNS response?

                                          (Normally I am in the US but I happen to be in Europe right now)

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                                          #134

                                          @Byte @cwebber also inventati.org is still live in germany....

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