Own goal of the century:
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@Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague israel wants it all. palestine wants it all. in 3000 years that region has only known a few periods of peace longer than 100 years (there were still skirmishes and revolts).
as reasonable as your suggestion sounds, unfortunately sustained peace is not possible in that region. best you can hope for is a temporary hault in hostilities, with a new flare up in a few years.
@pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague The historical conflicts in the levant are exagerated. For centuries under the Ottoman Empire, Muslim, Christian, and Jewish communities lived side-by-side in relative stability. Before that there was good coexistance, except when Crusaders stirred shit up.
Coexistance has deteriorated as Zionists started going there.
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@pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague The historical conflicts in the levant are exagerated. For centuries under the Ottoman Empire, Muslim, Christian, and Jewish communities lived side-by-side in relative stability. Before that there was good coexistance, except when Crusaders stirred shit up.
Coexistance has deteriorated as Zionists started going there.
A sole Democratic state is the solution, not walls and bullets.Indeed. The middle east has war because the US has wanted it to have war.
Before that, the UK wanted it to have war.
Before that, it was the christian nations that wanted to murder all arabs.Israel is ultimately just a pawn that has started to play its player.
@pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
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@benroyce thanks for the info. I read her whole Instagram multipost, and I think she makes an unfortunate conclusion when she does not recognize that you can be confronting the Israeli government without being against the Jews.
She is millimeters from accusing Macklemore of antisemitism just because he criticises genocide. In my view, it is HER connecting Jews in general with the acts of Israel — not him — and that is really unfortunate.
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@pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
the only way forward is for the world to agree on a two state solution, then move in militarily and impose it on either side, then sit there for 50 years, at least
something like intervention in the balkans in the 1990s, then a DMZ like on the korean penninsula
i feel it is the only thing that will work
but that is gargantuan ask of the world to do. and there is little will to do it
@benroyce @pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague So If I come to your House and claim 1/2 of it you are ok with that?
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@aral @randahl @benroyce
This point needs to be stressed again and again. Netanyahu is deliberately conflating hate for his Government with antisemitism, to the serious detriment of Jews everywhere. It’s a cynical move to make Jews outside Israel feel less safe and thus more likely to support Zionism. What an evil man Netanyahu is! -
@benroyce @pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague So If I come to your House and claim 1/2 of it you are ok with that?
@linuxrocks2024 @pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague I'm talking about 2 states. I don't even understand what you're talking about. Look at a map maybe?
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#Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years
also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions
and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/
@benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague
Really disappointed in Pink. I expected better from her. I never had much of an opinion on Ed Sheeran or Macklemore, but now I do.
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Sheeran was not so much pro-israel as "bowed down to an ultimatum from pro-Israel venue owners".
As much as such moral cowardice should be shamed, we need this light to be shone on Kraft and his ultimatum.
Sheeran should have made noise about it instead of trying to quietly shove the moral person off the tour.
@androcat @randahl @zerodowntime
Yeah, Sheeran has more shown himself to be spineless in the face of genocide than actually supportive of it, but still, he was forced to choose a side, and he did.
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@randahl The real winners here are the lawyers for the tour promoter.
They are going to generate many, many billable hours by suing everyone who breaks their tour contracts.
Everyone else will lose money here - the promoter, the musicians, the road crews, the fans. But the lawyers will have a great Christmas.
It could have been the venues. Sheeran could have stuck with his musicians, let the venues cancel, and sue them while booking other venues. I'm sure there are plenty who would have loved to host him.
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@androcat @randahl @zerodowntime
Yeah, Sheeran has more shown himself to be spineless in the face of genocide than actually supportive of it, but still, he was forced to choose a side, and he did.
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@linuxrocks2024 @pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague I'm talking about 2 states. I don't even understand what you're talking about. Look at a map maybe?
@benroyce @pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague It's pretty simple, you;re just trying to complicate it.
It's Been Palestine for 3,000yrs, Those that are trying to take it are not even from there nor are the descendants and that doesn't give them any right to take it.
I don't need a Map but since you said I needed one
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@linuxrocks2024 @pizzadoesntexist @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague I'm talking about 2 states. I don't even understand what you're talking about. Look at a map maybe?
