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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Own goal of the century:

    British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

    Result:

    American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

    Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

    Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

    Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

    The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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    #62

    @randahl A classic example of the "Streisand effect".

    Mackelmore has put Gaza, and the genocide that is taking place there back in the public eye.

    If he had been ignored then only those attending the concerts would have heard his point of view.

    Now the whole world has been reminded of the government of Israel's attempts to eradicated the Palestinian people.

    #sheeran #streisandeffect

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    • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

      @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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      #63

      @Thatfeministwoman

      Because it was built on the land of other peoples?

      And because Israel has made it clear that they cannot coexist with anyone.

      What part of that is hard to understand?

      @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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      • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

        @verymetalsite @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

        Credit Neil Stephensen. It's from "Snow Crash", which I never finished. It's his alternative to "The Metaverse".

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        #64

        @Uair @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

        Finished it, forgot this particular word. Still wondering why it has not been adapted for screen, that is one hell of an original script right there.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CffLFuxA2lo

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        • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

          @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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          #65

          @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague what Palestinian state? I wasn't aware they had one. Israel dictates everything that they can and can't do and they change that up all the time. There is no two state. It's only Israel and the forever shrinking Israeli occupied apartheid state.

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          • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

            @Thatfeministwoman

            Because it was built on the land of other peoples?

            And because Israel has made it clear that they cannot coexist with anyone.

            What part of that is hard to understand?

            @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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            #66

            @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague this same problem is with Kosovo and Serbia but both deserve their own states. I still think that there are some people there that don't support taking more spaces and then there are those who are so loud and hateful who get all the attention. They should had stayed with the spaces that British gave them instead of getting greedy. And If it's to be believed that why they do this (take more spaces) they should have

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            • jannem@fosstodon.orgJ jannem@fosstodon.org

              @grumble209 @randahl
              A power move would be for the musicians to say that okay, we're forced to play so we play.

              And then perform exactly as well as you would expect when you're forced against your will by the lead act and their lawyers. While making clear to the audience they're there against their will.

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              #67

              @jannem @grumble209 @randahl A better one would be for the musicians who left Sheeran's tour to sue the promoters, stadium owners etc for "constructive dismissal" by removing their right to free speech.

              I believe that the right to free speech is a big thing in the US.

              That would put this disgraceful situation and the genocide in Gaza back in the spotlight at repeated intervals as the court cases progressed.

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              • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                @Thatfeministwoman

                Because it was built on the land of other peoples?

                And because Israel has made it clear that they cannot coexist with anyone.

                What part of that is hard to understand?

                @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                #68

                @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague build a wall instead k*lling them or taking their lands. Or maybe they could have had 50% of the land and Palestine the other 50? I don't know If that's just a dream

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                • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

                  @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague why can't we support both Israel state and Palestine state? They both should have that and be in peace.

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                  #69

                  @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                  thank you

                  israel has a right to exist

                  palestine has a right to exist

                  the *only* way forward is a two state solution

                  but neither seems capable of working that out

                  israelis and palestinians were murdering each other long before i was born, and probably long after i'm dead

                  unless...

                  what?

                  i feel the two state solution has to be imposed on them by the world

                  but that is a *huge* ask

                  so we are stuck

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                  • uair@autistics.lifeU uair@autistics.life

                    @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                    They're /creating/ antisemitism where before there wasn't any. Not everybody out there in meatspace is as sophisticated a thinker as Mastodonians.

                    Before: "we're nice to Jews 'cuz of the Holocaust." Now: "Jews did their own holocaust. Fuck 'em."

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                    #70

                    @Uair it’s heckin complicated. A lot of non-Jewish people don’t understand that Israel is separate from Judaism. I’ve had to explain to very good pals that I didn’t have any connection to or sympathy for Israel, that my Judaism was entirely disconnected from Israel. That branding campaign has been extremely successful and problematic because they aren’t one & the same. @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                    • manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.socialM manwhotalkstohishand@mastodon.social

                      @Thatfeministwoman @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague what Palestinian state? I wasn't aware they had one. Israel dictates everything that they can and can't do and they change that up all the time. There is no two state. It's only Israel and the forever shrinking Israeli occupied apartheid state.

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                      #71

                      @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague well they should have two states. I'm just saying that I support both. I'm not one of those people who want jews and israeli folk to go away from there and go "back" to europe or some other countries. I understand why Israel state exists. It's a good safe haven for them just in case another jewish genocide starts

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Own goal of the century:

                        British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                        Result:

                        American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                        Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                        Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                        Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                        The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                        #72

                        Mackelmore did not "condemn genocide",

                        he did a nazi salute while wearing a false big nose (jewish caricature)

                        Photos here (text in French)
                        https://piaille.fr/@scudery/117274599694126629

                        @Sylvhem

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                          thank you

                          israel has a right to exist

                          palestine has a right to exist

                          the *only* way forward is a two state solution

                          but neither seems capable of working that out

                          israelis and palestinians were murdering each other long before i was born, and probably long after i'm dead

                          unless...

                          what?

                          i feel the two state solution has to be imposed on them by the world

                          but that is a *huge* ask

                          so we are stuck

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                          #73

                          @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague I'm saying this cause my parents are from Kosovo (Kosovo albanians) so I kind of can relate to this never ending problem (it's not me it's you and the other one says the same) and 30 f*cking years and still nothing has changed and parents continuing the cycle of teaching their children to hate the "Enemy" neighbor. I'm tired of the cycle of hate. Nothing will change If we continue hating each other

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                            yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world

                            so we talk about it and we oppose it

                            we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions

                            we do both

                            and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics

                            except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars

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                            #74

                            @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                            Are these photos of Macklemore not antisemitic ?
                            (text in French)

                            https://piaille.fr/@scudery/117274599694126629

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Own goal of the century:

                              British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                              Result:

                              American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                              Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                              Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                              Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                              The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                              #75

                              @randahl

                              Own goal of the century: Ed Sheerans Israel Genocide Support.

                              No support whatsoever for
                              Ed She ran
                              here, disgusting piece of work has earned a full boycott..

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                Own goal of the century:

                                British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                                Result:

                                American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                                Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                                Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                                Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                                The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                                #76

                                @randahl as Nye Bevan put it, “People who walk down the middle of the road get run over”

                                Let’s hope Sheeran reflects on projecting neutrality in the face of genocide - and starts by educating himself

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                                  #77

                                  @benroyce yup, exactly. Friends were just describing a Jewish community in Philadelphis utterly split over this stuff. Insane. @Uair @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

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                                  • sous_mon_masque@eldritch.cafeS sous_mon_masque@eldritch.cafe

                                    @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                    Are these photos of Macklemore not antisemitic ?
                                    (text in French)

                                    https://piaille.fr/@scudery/117274599694126629

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                                    #78

                                    @sous_mon_masque @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                    the way i understand that incident is he used a random disguise, in his words, and he apologized for the confusion of appearing to be antisemitic

                                    now you could take him at his word

                                    or insist he was an antisemite and a liar

                                    either way, his statement on antisemitism two days ago shows a clear understanding of what antisemitism is, and that it is wrong

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                      #Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years

                                      also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions

                                      and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference

                                      https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/

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                                      #79

                                      @benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague this is the first time I heard that she is jewish. I've been a fan since the early 2000's and I never knew it before

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                                      • thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT thatfeministwoman@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague I'm saying this cause my parents are from Kosovo (Kosovo albanians) so I kind of can relate to this never ending problem (it's not me it's you and the other one says the same) and 30 f*cking years and still nothing has changed and parents continuing the cycle of teaching their children to hate the "Enemy" neighbor. I'm tired of the cycle of hate. Nothing will change If we continue hating each other

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                                        #80

                                        @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @androcat @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                        it's really the same thing:

                                        a blood feud

                                        in the balkans and the levant

                                        an endless cycle of violence

                                        "i'm going to kill you because your dad killed my dad because my grandfather killed your grandfather, etc, etc"

                                        and like the 1990s, what stopped it was intervention

                                        i feel the world has to intervene in the levant. the problem is getting the will to commit to that. it is a big ask. i don't see any other way

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                                        • sous_mon_masque@eldritch.cafeS sous_mon_masque@eldritch.cafe

                                          Mackelmore did not "condemn genocide",

                                          he did a nazi salute while wearing a false big nose (jewish caricature)

                                          Photos here (text in French)
                                          https://piaille.fr/@scudery/117274599694126629

                                          @Sylvhem

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                                          #81

                                          @sous_mon_masque Ooooooof.

                                          (But he did condemn genocide, more recently. But now I suspect I know what its motivation is 😬.)

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