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  3. You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon.

You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon.

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  • S spacelifeform@infosec.exchange

    @FediTips

    What is the default?

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    #22

    @SpaceLifeForm

    As far as I know the default currently seems to be "Anyone can quote you".

    This isn't great, it would make the feature opt-out rather than opt-in. We'll have to see what happens when the feature launches.

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    • pepper0@aus.socialP pepper0@aus.social

      @FediTips

      thanks for work on #mastodon

      but this particular moment doesn't seem well thought.
      people can screenshot post and quote it anyway.
      Meanwhile I see others quoting, while I can't.
      Where is Followers only privacy option for re-tooting ?

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      #23

      @pepper0

      If you have a public post, it's always going to be possible for others to screenshot or copy-paste it, yes.

      However, setting the quote privacy is still useful because it causes friction for those who defy it (their quote posts look crap) and also because it indicates your preferences to those who respect it. At the moment there is no way to tell if people want to be quoted or not.

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

        1. Log into your server's website
        2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
        3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
        4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
        5. Click "Save Changes" button

        The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

        #FediTips #Mastodon

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        #24

        p.s. Several people pointing out if you make a public post, people can still screenshot or copy-paste or link to it, no matter what you choose.

        However, setting your quote preference is still useful for two reasons:

        - It shows your preferences to those who respect them. People who see no quote option after quoting launches will know you don't want to be quoted.

        - It adds friction for those who defy your wishes, their quote posts will look crap because they have tried to bypass your wishes.

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          p.s. Several people pointing out if you make a public post, people can still screenshot or copy-paste or link to it, no matter what you choose.

          However, setting your quote preference is still useful for two reasons:

          - It shows your preferences to those who respect them. People who see no quote option after quoting launches will know you don't want to be quoted.

          - It adds friction for those who defy your wishes, their quote posts will look crap because they have tried to bypass your wishes.

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          #25

          p.p.s. Okay, more info on quote tooting from one of the Mastodon developers:

          - It will ALSO be available on a per-toot basis. So, if you want to allow some toots to be quoted but not others, that will also be possible.

          - You can change your setting after publication, and it can retract existing quote toots by other people.

          - If someone quotes you it will appear in your notifications column, just like boosts and favourites already do.

          More details of all these at https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068739790243414

          avatastic@avatastic.ukA aldercone@mastodon.artA ls@social.lsnet.euL 3 Replies Last reply
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          • enriquericos@mastodon.artE enriquericos@mastodon.art

            @FediTips That's how I want it to work 👍

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            #26

            @enriquericos

            Just had it confirmed by a developer, you will see it as a notification just like boosts and favourites: https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068739790243414

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            • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

              @FediTips

              I'm surprised if this doesn't get to be a per post setting. And also "people I follow" as option (and/or mutuals)

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              #27

              @project1enigma

              One of the developers just posted that it will also be available to set per post:

              https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068739790243414

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                p.p.s. Okay, more info on quote tooting from one of the Mastodon developers:

                - It will ALSO be available on a per-toot basis. So, if you want to allow some toots to be quoted but not others, that will also be possible.

                - You can change your setting after publication, and it can retract existing quote toots by other people.

                - If someone quotes you it will appear in your notifications column, just like boosts and favourites already do.

                More details of all these at https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068739790243414

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                #28

                @FediTips we just need to wait for the app developers to catch up now...

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                • avatastic@avatastic.ukA avatastic@avatastic.uk

                  @FediTips we just need to wait for the app developers to catch up now...

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                  #29

                  @avatastic

                  The Masto devs haven't published the API documentation about quoting yet, so this could take a bit longer.

                  They have published docs about displaying quoted toots though, so that should be in apps sooner.

                  https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068822993714686

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    p.p.s. Okay, more info on quote tooting from one of the Mastodon developers:

                    - It will ALSO be available on a per-toot basis. So, if you want to allow some toots to be quoted but not others, that will also be possible.

                    - You can change your setting after publication, and it can retract existing quote toots by other people.

                    - If someone quotes you it will appear in your notifications column, just like boosts and favourites already do.

                    More details of all these at https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068739790243414

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                    #30

                    @FediTips do you know if quote tooting will respect federation?

                    Like right now, if i boost from this account on dotArt a toot from Server A, if Server B isn't federated with Server A (or has been defederated), Server B wont see my boost. Is quote tooting going to work the same way?

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                    • aldercone@mastodon.artA aldercone@mastodon.art

                      @FediTips do you know if quote tooting will respect federation?

                      Like right now, if i boost from this account on dotArt a toot from Server A, if Server B isn't federated with Server A (or has been defederated), Server B wont see my boost. Is quote tooting going to work the same way?

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                      #31

                      @aldercone

                      Servers don't federate in that way, it's more like this:

                      Person Y is followed by someone on Server B, so all of Person Y's public posts are visible to everyone on Server B.

                      Your public posts and boosts (and quote posts) are visible to everyone on all the servers of all your followers.

                      If a server defederates another server, it does so by cutting off all of its own members follows connected to that other server in both directions.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        @aldercone

                        Servers don't federate in that way, it's more like this:

                        Person Y is followed by someone on Server B, so all of Person Y's public posts are visible to everyone on Server B.

                        Your public posts and boosts (and quote posts) are visible to everyone on all the servers of all your followers.

                        If a server defederates another server, it does so by cutting off all of its own members follows connected to that other server in both directions.

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                        #32

                        @FediTips thats not what i mean. i do know how servers federate, thanks anyway

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          @aldercone

                          Servers don't federate in that way, it's more like this:

                          Person Y is followed by someone on Server B, so all of Person Y's public posts are visible to everyone on Server B.

                          Your public posts and boosts (and quote posts) are visible to everyone on all the servers of all your followers.

                          If a server defederates another server, it does so by cutting off all of its own members follows connected to that other server in both directions.

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                          #33

                          @FediTips @aldercone this seems to be implying that if someone boosts a post, all of their followers will see it regardless of whether they can see posts from the original server the post was on... That sounds wrong? At least doesn't line up with my experiences, I've never seen a boost of a post from a server that doesn't federate with mine and I feel like if that was a thing I would have come across at least one lol

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                          • aldercone@mastodon.artA aldercone@mastodon.art

                            @FediTips thats not what i mean. i do know how servers federate, thanks anyway

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                            #34

                            @aldercone

                            Ahh apologies, I misread your post 😳

                            I'm guessing you're right, it sounds like it will handle it in a similar way to boosts, i.e. quoted posts won't show up on servers that their server has defederated.

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                            • raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR raphaelmorgan@disabled.social

                              @FediTips @aldercone this seems to be implying that if someone boosts a post, all of their followers will see it regardless of whether they can see posts from the original server the post was on... That sounds wrong? At least doesn't line up with my experiences, I've never seen a boost of a post from a server that doesn't federate with mine and I feel like if that was a thing I would have come across at least one lol

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                              #35

                              @raphaelmorgan @aldercone

                              Yup, apologies, my reply was a bit oversimplified (and I had misread the original question too).

                              You're right, boosts won't show up on servers that have been defederated by the server of the post being boosted.

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                p.p.s. Okay, more info on quote tooting from one of the Mastodon developers:

                                - It will ALSO be available on a per-toot basis. So, if you want to allow some toots to be quoted but not others, that will also be possible.

                                - You can change your setting after publication, and it can retract existing quote toots by other people.

                                - If someone quotes you it will appear in your notifications column, just like boosts and favourites already do.

                                More details of all these at https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068739790243414

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                                #36

                                @FediTips Not sure I like the "it can retract existing quote toots by other people" part.

                                Does this mean that if the author turns off quoting (for one post or all) because of a single offensive quote post, all quotes will be deleted?

                                Edit: Found more details on how it works: https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068805739885059

                                Seems that posts won't be deleted but only the quoted parts blocked.

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

                                  1. Log into your server's website
                                  2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
                                  3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
                                  4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
                                  5. Click "Save Changes" button

                                  The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

                                  #FediTips #Mastodon

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                                  #37

                                  What is this whole "quote" thing about in the first place?

                                  Thus far, I copied a piece of text from someone's toot, put "" around it, indicated who wrote it, and called the whole thing a quote. That doesn't seem to be what is meant here.

                                  So, what else is?

                                  @FediTips

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                                  • dj3ei@mastodon.radioD dj3ei@mastodon.radio

                                    What is this whole "quote" thing about in the first place?

                                    Thus far, I copied a piece of text from someone's toot, put "" around it, indicated who wrote it, and called the whole thing a quote. That doesn't seem to be what is meant here.

                                    So, what else is?

                                    @FediTips

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                                    #38

                                    @dj3ei

                                    It's where the original post you're quoting appears embedded within your own post. It means people can see the original post entirely without eating your character limit, and it looks a bit nicer (depending on the interface or app you're using).

                                    You don't have to use it, but it's very popular on many platforms.

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                                    • ls@social.lsnet.euL ls@social.lsnet.eu

                                      @FediTips Not sure I like the "it can retract existing quote toots by other people" part.

                                      Does this mean that if the author turns off quoting (for one post or all) because of a single offensive quote post, all quotes will be deleted?

                                      Edit: Found more details on how it works: https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068805739885059

                                      Seems that posts won't be deleted but only the quoted parts blocked.

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                                      #39

                                      @ls

                                      Yup, the quoted post disappears but it doesn't affect the other person's comment on the quoted post.

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