If you’re still using Proton mail:

[troed@swecyb.com]

@Infoseepage

No, you're making stuff up because it's apparently important for you to act like an ass towards Proton.

Occam's razor is pretty clear on an asian person using the number 88 and you claiming it must have something to do with nazi dogwhistles.

And no, an affiliate program is not sponsorship. And no, Andy saying that a single person in Trump's previous cabinet had a history of supporting small tech vs big tech was not a "Trump endorsement" and all the other conspiracy theories you managed to drag up in this thread.

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

@gotofritz @gatogatogato @slothrop

[drsbaitso@infosec.exchange]

@troed That ain't a denial, and I'm not the one defending the defenders of the Cavalcade of Incompetence here.

If the hood fits...

[slothrop@chaos.social]

RE: https://toot.cafe/@chartier/116714648918327920

The Reddit post linked in this toot has some additional info.

tl;dr: it’s as bad as it looks.

[gatogatogato@ohai.social]

@troed @Infoseepage @gotofritz @slothrop So by staying with Proton as a paing customer doesn't mean my money ends up funding neofascists? Because that is really not what I want. But to be honest, as a working father of a 2yo I really lack the time and motiviation of migrating all my accounts again.

[troed@swecyb.com]

@gatogatogato

Correct, there's absolutely nothing even fash-adjacent with Proton.

(I'm a Visionary customer of Proton's - and I'm as opposite to authoritarian as can possibly be. They're doing good stuff with my money)

@Infoseepage @gotofritz @slothrop

[pgiulan@federate.social]

@slothrop

Context from Proton: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

[pamela1960@kolektiva.social]

@slothrop Moved from Proton to NordVPN last month.

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@pgiulan thanks!

I’ve updated the original post with the link you shared.

Happy to tag you, if you want - just let me know.

[thebratdragon@mastodon.scot]

@gotofritz @slothrop @nileane

sit at a table with a fascist holocaust denier, and you too are a fascist holocaust denier....

Irredeemable damage to their brand, I mean big front page of, get away from US based right wing tech, use home grown fascist tech instead.

[zzt@mas.to]

@slothrop holy shit, proton’s reply is very visibly LLM slop. they’re not even trying anymore.

[phillip@social.lol]

@slothrop @nileane I archived their AI-ass response just in case

https://web.archive.org/web/20260608152522/https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/can_someone_from_protonmail_clarify_this_matter/oqgihvq/

[joe@toot.works]

@slothrop Got a screenshot? Reddit blocks me from seeing Reddit, so I can't read it.

[troed@swecyb.com]

@Infoseepage Proton literally screwed up their vetting, owns the mistake and will correct their procedure from now on.

Have you ever worked at a company?

https://swecyb.com/@troed/116715084906078611

@gatogatogato @gotofritz @slothrop

[troed@swecyb.com]

@Infoseepage

No they didn't "LOL"

Read more. Post less.

"The response wasn't written with the help of AI, I (the person replying to you right now) personally wrote it. Unless you mean to imply I myself am AI... "

(from the Reddit thread - which also includes comments from people who know that AIs are trained on how PR people write which, incidently, is why output from PR persons sound that way ... and yes, the same department I worked at also had the Developer Communication _PR and marketing trained_ people and that's what it looks like)

@gatogatogato @gotofritz @slothrop

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@joe a kind soul archived Proton’s response for posterity:

https://web.archive.org/web/20260608152522/https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/can_someone_from_protonmail_clarify_this_matter/

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@phillip @nileane Thanks!

[cyberpunker@mastodon.social]

@slothrop From the Reddit post "...while our services are available to everyone regardless of political views.."

Proton will never get any money from me nor will i recommend them.

[selflesssloth@social.tchncs.de]

@slothrop I opened an issue and got the following response (in German) from Proton:

Hallo,

Dies ist eine Folge-E-Mail.

Wir möchten Ihnen wichtige Hintergrundinformationen zu diesem Vorfall geben.

Der Kanal von Vincent Lapierre hätte niemals Teil unseres Partner- und Sponsoringprogramms sein dürfen, da wir bewusst Verbindungen zu Kanälen vermeiden, deren Inhalte von unserer Botschaft ablenken und unsere Community spalten könnten.

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[selflesssloth@social.tchncs.de]

@slothrop
Proton ist weltweit tätig, und obwohl unsere Dienstleistungen allen unabhängig von politischen Ansichten zur Verfügung stehen und unsere Mission überall dieselbe ist, ist unser Wissen über die jeweilige lokale Medienlandschaft nicht überall gleich. In diesem Fall verfügte unser Team nicht über genügend Informationen zum französischen Medienmarkt, um eine fundierte Entscheidung zu treffen, und das geht auf unsere Kappe.

Wir möchten außerdem klarstellen, was eine solche Platzierung ist und was nicht. Eine Partner- oder Sponsoringvereinbarung ist eine transaktionale Platzierung zur Steigerung der Bekanntheit, keine Unterstützung der Ansichten eines Content-Creators. Im Fall von Vincent Lapierre handelte es sich um ein Sponsoring eines einzelnen Videos, nicht um eine Partnerschaft.

[selflesssloth@social.tchncs.de]

@slothrop
Diese Unterscheidung entschuldigt jedoch nicht, was hier geschehen ist. Es liegt in unserer Verantwortung, die Partner, mit denen wir zusammenarbeiten, sorgfältig zu prüfen, und dieser Verantwortung sind wir dieses Mal nicht gerecht geworden. Wir überprüfen nun unseren Auswahlprozess und unsere Richtlinien für Marketingagenturen, um sicherzustellen, dass dies nicht wieder vorkommt.

Sollten Sie erneut einen solchen Vorfall beobachten, informieren Sie uns bitte. Wir sind auf Ihr Feedback und Ihre Aufmerksamkeit angewiesen.

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