If you’re still using Proton mail:

[plantagolabs@mastodon.social]

@slothrop Noooooo I just moved away from google and started to get comfy with proton mail.

[strangenoises@mastodon.social]

@Brett_E_Carlock @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota I have been considering Mailbox.org for my eventual flight from gmail. It seems more like a basic ye olde mail provider rather than another lock-in. Someone can now tell me why they’re evil too…

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@benroyce what are you using for your email? @alice @slothrop

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@Ox1de that was my thought also @slothrop @protonmail

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@draNgNon @alice @slothrop

why would i answer that

opsec matters

only give out that info you are comfortable that it can't be used against you

but i hear tuta is pretty cool

[strangenoises@mastodon.social]

@Brett_E_Carlock @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota isn’t that the case with proton too?

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@Ox1de in what regard does this “story” (such as it is) seem misleading?

In any case, I too would welcome a clarification from
@protonmail

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@benroyce lol ok I wasn't asking for your email address but I'm aware of how opsec matters, very very aware. I'm slowly correcting problematic things in my situation, which reminds me of something @alice @slothrop

[jago@mementomori.social]

@slothrop from one fascist arsehole service to another. Fuck this shit, I think I'm going back to my own domain.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@draNgNon @alice @slothrop

i didn't feel like saying and then got all defensive 🤭

it's cool, we cool

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@draNgNon @benroyce @alice fwiw, I use a managed hosting service that includes email, on my own domain.

This may sound a little complicated, but it isn’t really. I set it up following the provider’s howtos. That was ca. 15 years ago, and it’s just been ticking along.

If that provider ever goes bad, I can just take my stuff elsewhere. The service itself is basically a commodity.

[gatogatogato@ohai.social]

@Infoseepage @slothrop What is a good alternative? Where did you go?

[acid@ohai.social]

@slothrop Oh man, I just switched to proton because the mail provider I used before is owned by a fascist /o\

[kleisli@mastodon.social]

@jago why did you think you need more than an IMAP&SMTP server with your own domain? @slothrop

[roboro@mastodon.social]

@slothrop totally depressed by this. It has been a challenge to migrate all of my mail and friends and family on my domain off of Google's crap infrastructure. Have struggled with some shortcomings in Proton - their alias handling etc is terrible - but I am really upset to hear about fascist leanings etc. I just don't know how to up and migrate a whole bunch of people after a few months of getting people used to the shift.
Why is the world so full of horrible people?

[yaxu@post.lurk.org]

@slothrop Anyone can sign up to be an affiliate as part of their partners program. Seems more plausible than a swiss email company taking the time to sponsor a far right youtuber? https://proton.me/partners/affiliates

[lli@mastodon.lli.be]

@slothrop

Entièrement raison, c'est une farce.

https://www.numerama.com/tech/736940-protonmail-transmet-des-adresses-ip-a-la-police-4-questions-pour-comprendre-la-polemique.html

https://www.justgeek.fr/proton-mail-fbi-donnees-anonymat-147761/

[ratfactor@mastodon.art]

@tempusfelix @slothrop Ethics/sustainability/privacy are some of the reasons I chose Runbox:

https://runbox.com/about/

They're also on the Fediverse: @runbox

[barubary@infosec.exchange]

@uriel What do you mean by "advertisement on ads"?

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@slothrop well, despite comments to @benroyce about opsec...

so... I started using Proton just to move storage to the EU.

in that sense, for email, it's behind my own domain and could just be migrated (i.e. what you said doesn't sound complicated at all, other than DMARC issues).

but the other thing I use them for is photos, end2end encrypted, that then don't have to be also stored on my phone. migrating that would be more challenging. I looked for alternatives for a couple years, before establishing a Proton account.

@benroyce @alice