If you’re still using Proton mail:

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@draNgNon @alice @slothrop

i didn't feel like saying and then got all defensive 🤭

it's cool, we cool

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@draNgNon @benroyce @alice fwiw, I use a managed hosting service that includes email, on my own domain.

This may sound a little complicated, but it isn’t really. I set it up following the provider’s howtos. That was ca. 15 years ago, and it’s just been ticking along.

If that provider ever goes bad, I can just take my stuff elsewhere. The service itself is basically a commodity.

[gatogatogato@ohai.social]

@Infoseepage @slothrop What is a good alternative? Where did you go?

[acid@ohai.social]

@slothrop Oh man, I just switched to proton because the mail provider I used before is owned by a fascist /o\

[kleisli@mastodon.social]

@jago why did you think you need more than an IMAP&SMTP server with your own domain? @slothrop

[roboro@mastodon.social]

@slothrop totally depressed by this. It has been a challenge to migrate all of my mail and friends and family on my domain off of Google's crap infrastructure. Have struggled with some shortcomings in Proton - their alias handling etc is terrible - but I am really upset to hear about fascist leanings etc. I just don't know how to up and migrate a whole bunch of people after a few months of getting people used to the shift.
Why is the world so full of horrible people?

[yaxu@post.lurk.org]

@slothrop Anyone can sign up to be an affiliate as part of their partners program. Seems more plausible than a swiss email company taking the time to sponsor a far right youtuber? https://proton.me/partners/affiliates

[lli@mastodon.lli.be]

@slothrop

Entièrement raison, c'est une farce.

https://www.numerama.com/tech/736940-protonmail-transmet-des-adresses-ip-a-la-police-4-questions-pour-comprendre-la-polemique.html

https://www.justgeek.fr/proton-mail-fbi-donnees-anonymat-147761/

[ratfactor@mastodon.art]

@tempusfelix @slothrop Ethics/sustainability/privacy are some of the reasons I chose Runbox:

https://runbox.com/about/

They're also on the Fediverse: @runbox

[barubary@infosec.exchange]

@uriel What do you mean by "advertisement on ads"?

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@slothrop well, despite comments to @benroyce about opsec...

so... I started using Proton just to move storage to the EU.

in that sense, for email, it's behind my own domain and could just be migrated (i.e. what you said doesn't sound complicated at all, other than DMARC issues).

but the other thing I use them for is photos, end2end encrypted, that then don't have to be also stored on my phone. migrating that would be more challenging. I looked for alternatives for a couple years, before establishing a Proton account.

@benroyce @alice

[glowl@chaos.social]

@theeclecticdyslexic @slothrop @nileane i do not think they will change their stance as their c?o/founder already supported trump and spewed other hyper capitalist right ideology shit himself.

and given that history i would still move anyways no matter what capitalsit ass saving response you get.

and i think you can just link to the french wikipedia. as proton embraced all this AI bullshit they will be able to translate (badly) themselves.

[spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I’ve created a mailbox.org account early last month (shortly before google went all google) and am slowly moving things over there. Haven’t encountered any evil yet. Only hiccups were that some things weren’t properly localized, like one confirmation link mail was in German, that was pretty self explanatory tho

[shemjm@social.vivaldi.net]

@slothrop never heard of that YouTuber. What makes him far right/fascist?

[glowl@chaos.social]

@Infoseepage @gatogatogato @slothrop or mailbox.org or posteo

[albi@furry.engineer]

@Arthfach @tempusfelix @slothrop it's cool, but please start charging for what actually causes costs rather than just alias/mailbox amount. I would much rather hit a rate limit than choose which alias im ok with being leaked and spammed.

[maya_b@hachyderm.io]

@slothrop

migrating to tuta.com from proton was rather painless, even with custom domains. took a couple of hours including reading some light documentation. On the Tuta side, most of it guides you through everything you need to do so no real reason to even read the docs it turned out.

[ku@c.im]

@nando161 I'm on disroot as I could never find someone to invite me to riseup : can I please get an invite?

[mast0d0nphan@beige.party]

@slothrop

[s_d_brath@mastodon.social]

@slothrop yeah, but at least they are european fascists and not those damn foreign ones.