No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.
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@Vivaldi That's good to heard you won't cave into AI like the other browsers.
What about my Vivaldi cat ear logo change? I think it would be a hit!! :3
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@marc_eu @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek
Yes, Startpage use the Google index, but not its sniffing, tracking nor logs and no AI, all behind proxy. I use it mostly for image search with better results as with others.
It's from the Netherlands.@Catweazle @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek
Yes I know it’s, like myself, from The Netherlands.The algorithm of Google, which Startpage has to use, is for me untrustworthy.
I personally use @kagihq
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@Vivaldi
Please make noai.duckduckgo a default search engine choice. I have to manually switch DDG every time I use it.@Petesmom +1
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@benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi That person just asked to change their browser engine to something other than Chromium. I don't agree at all, but it's an opinion, while you are attacking his opinion like we were on Twitter. We don't do that here, and yeah, I can block and mute you, as many people can and will do if you keep up this behavior. Welcome to the fediverse also, but stop being so toxic and telling people to just block/mute you. Be constructive and positive. Thanks.
i'm not blocking you, jimmyb, you're blocking me
if i recall our conversation which led to the rupture correctly, you were vomiting whataboutism that blames the west for russia invading ukraine
i called you out harshly for your lies, as you deserved
hilariously enough, that makes this "arrogant American Supremacist" more in line with average european sentiment than you
but i'm glad i made an impression
now stop making stupid excuses for kremlin imperialism
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i'm not blocking you, jimmyb, you're blocking me
if i recall our conversation which led to the rupture correctly, you were vomiting whataboutism that blames the west for russia invading ukraine
i called you out harshly for your lies, as you deserved
hilariously enough, that makes this "arrogant American Supremacist" more in line with average european sentiment than you
but i'm glad i made an impression
now stop making stupid excuses for kremlin imperialism
@benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi what?... you really crazy right now
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@benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi what?... you really crazy right now
yes, i am
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No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.
@Vivaldi I ditched Brave for Vivaldi last night. A peeve is that Vivaldi is missing the ALT+D shortcut to shift input focus to the address bar out of the box as other Chromium based browsers do, but that can be configured back in manually.
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@Vivaldi I ditched Brave for Vivaldi last night. A peeve is that Vivaldi is missing the ALT+D shortcut to shift input focus to the address bar out of the box as other Chromium based browsers do, but that can be configured back in manually.
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No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.
@Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Stop baiting users into using your proprietary Chromium fork with your CEO stanceslop and instead do something useful like release the source code zo your users can have freedom.
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@Catweazle @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek
Yes I know it’s, like myself, from The Netherlands.The algorithm of Google, which Startpage has to use, is for me untrustworthy.
I personally use @kagihq
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@Catweazle @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek @kagihq
FYI: With Kagi you can pay with bitcoins, and registration doesn't require personal information.
NB: Andi uses AI (...)
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@ahau @Vivaldi That is a fitting metaphor: AI as a big tidal wave.
The proper response to big tidal waves is to seek higher ground and wait until the waters recede. Then you clean up the filth and debris that it has left everywhere and repair or rebuild what was damaged. In the end, you get to terms with the fact that some things and some people were irretrievably lost, and that some of the landscape has changed permanently.
I’m quite sure that the current AI craze will go somewhat like that.
@ArtHarg @Vivaldi Ride the wave. Harness AI. It is not about computing. It is about understanding computer and everything else. There is no more barrier to any human knowledge. There is no such thing as "specialist". The AI era is like the 70s when I bought my first Apple IIe. It is like the 80s when I bought my first 80286 PC with only a 30M harddisk. It is like the 90s when I learned html and some Javascript. It is a learning experience, not just about AI, but everything else.
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@petrichaos @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi
it infects social media
perfectionism, toxic idealism, purity
as an entitled basis to complain about every. goddamn. thing.
and always zero appreciation from these assholes shown, for the only thing we are ever going to get, from any entity in this world, on any topic:
progress
it's simply a basis for edgelord trolling on baseless malcontent
or it's a personality disorder: stunt vibing ego masturbation
it's a parasitical social interaction on us all
@benroyce @petrichaos @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi Such flawed attempts at dialectic on social media result only in the burden-of-argument tennis; see Schopenhauer. https://burdentennis.com/ PS <30 days to real actual Wimbledon with yellow balls.
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@jgg
For a private search enginge try startpage dot com
Anonymous mode and AI optional.AFAIK, Startpage results are taken from Google's engine, so it is not really independent.
Now that Google is ditching search results, I wonder what is Startpage going to do. Probably the same.
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@Vivaldi Perfect. I regularly use AI in a separate tab to help me figure out what I want to search for, and then do the search. So much of what AI "answers" is unnecessary and gets in the way of the answers you're actually looking for. I don't want context for every question or search. For those who do want it, they should be the ones forced to opt-in, rather than forcing the rest of us to opt-out.
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@Vivaldi how is it only a fringe news story that Google is overhauling the search? This has huge ramifications for everyday people; it's not just a tech or business news story.
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Duckduckgo results, according to Wikipedia, come from a diversity of sources, including Google and Bing, so they are not really independent, and as Google is removing real search results, with Bing very likely doing the same, they may be doing the same soon.
They made recently a poll about AI, with 90% of people refusing it; their answer was creating the noai version. That reveals a strong pro-ai bias, since the right thing would have been refusing to use AI at all, or creating a ai.duckduckgo.com and leaving the main domain AI free.
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I'm afraid none Spring to mind.
