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  • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

    @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi That person just asked to change their browser engine to something other than Chromium. I don't agree at all, but it's an opinion, while you are attacking his opinion like we were on Twitter. We don't do that here, and yeah, I can block and mute you, as many people can and will do if you keep up this behavior. Welcome to the fediverse also, but stop being so toxic and telling people to just block/mute you. Be constructive and positive. Thanks.

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    #61

    @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

    i'm not blocking you, jimmyb, you're blocking me

    if i recall our conversation which led to the rupture correctly, you were vomiting whataboutism that blames the west for russia invading ukraine

    i called you out harshly for your lies, as you deserved

    hilariously enough, that makes this "arrogant American Supremacist" more in line with average european sentiment than you

    but i'm glad i made an impression

    now stop making stupid excuses for kremlin imperialism

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

      i'm not blocking you, jimmyb, you're blocking me

      if i recall our conversation which led to the rupture correctly, you were vomiting whataboutism that blames the west for russia invading ukraine

      i called you out harshly for your lies, as you deserved

      hilariously enough, that makes this "arrogant American Supremacist" more in line with average european sentiment than you

      but i'm glad i made an impression

      now stop making stupid excuses for kremlin imperialism

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      #62

      @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi what?... you really crazy right now

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      • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

        @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi what?... you really crazy right now

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        #63

        @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

        yes, i am

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        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

          No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

          #AI #browser #technology #Google

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          #64

          @Vivaldi I ditched Brave for Vivaldi last night. A peeve is that Vivaldi is missing the ALT+D shortcut to shift input focus to the address bar out of the box as other Chromium based browsers do, but that can be configured back in manually.

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          • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

            @Vivaldi I ditched Brave for Vivaldi last night. A peeve is that Vivaldi is missing the ALT+D shortcut to shift input focus to the address bar out of the box as other Chromium based browsers do, but that can be configured back in manually.

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            #65

            @bms48 @Vivaldi
            Standard Cmd-L. You can easily look that up
            via Cmd-E.

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            • marc_eu@veganism.socialM marc_eu@veganism.social

              @bms48 @Vivaldi
              Standard Cmd-L. You can easily look that up
              via Cmd-E.

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              #66

              @marc_eu @Vivaldi You're missing the point, ALT+D is in muscle memory for myself and perhaps many other users.

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              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                #AI #browser #technology #Google

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                #67

                @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Stop baiting users into using your proprietary Chromium fork with your CEO stanceslop and instead do something useful like release the source code zo your users can have freedom.

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                • marc_eu@veganism.socialM marc_eu@veganism.social

                  @Catweazle @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek
                  Yes I know it’s, like myself, from The Netherlands.

                  The algorithm of Google, which Startpage has to use, is for me untrustworthy.

                  I personally use @kagihq

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                  #68

                  @marc_eu @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek @kagihq
                  yes, Kagi is good, but in view of dozends of excelent search engines, I don't feel like using one that requires a registration and payment, with this it's no longer private.
                  With those I use I find all what I want, enough to contrast results.

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                  • catweazle@social.vivaldi.netC catweazle@social.vivaldi.net

                    @marc_eu @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek @kagihq
                    yes, Kagi is good, but in view of dozends of excelent search engines, I don't feel like using one that requires a registration and payment, with this it's no longer private.
                    With those I use I find all what I want, enough to contrast results.

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                    #69

                    @Catweazle @Skwerlgyrl @Petesmom @Vivaldi @Mojeek @kagihq

                    FYI: With Kagi you can pay with bitcoins, and registration doesn't require personal information.

                    NB: Andi uses AI (...)

                    #fuckai #noAI

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                    • artharg@mastodon.nlA artharg@mastodon.nl

                      @ahau @Vivaldi That is a fitting metaphor: AI as a big tidal wave.

                      The proper response to big tidal waves is to seek higher ground and wait until the waters recede. Then you clean up the filth and debris that it has left everywhere and repair or rebuild what was damaged. In the end, you get to terms with the fact that some things and some people were irretrievably lost, and that some of the landscape has changed permanently.

                      I’m quite sure that the current AI craze will go somewhat like that.

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                      #70

                      @ArtHarg @Vivaldi Ride the wave. Harness AI. It is not about computing. It is about understanding computer and everything else. There is no more barrier to any human knowledge. There is no such thing as "specialist". The AI era is like the 70s when I bought my first Apple IIe. It is like the 80s when I bought my first 80286 PC with only a 30M harddisk. It is like the 90s when I learned html and some Javascript. It is a learning experience, not just about AI, but everything else.

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                      • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        @Vivaldi Awesome, sure wish I could run Vivaldi on #FreeBSD.

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                        #71

                        @nuintari @Vivaldi Can't the Linuxolator be applied?

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @petrichaos @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                          it infects social media

                          perfectionism, toxic idealism, purity

                          as an entitled basis to complain about every. goddamn. thing.

                          and always zero appreciation from these assholes shown, for the only thing we are ever going to get, from any entity in this world, on any topic:

                          progress

                          it's simply a basis for edgelord trolling on baseless malcontent

                          or it's a personality disorder: stunt vibing ego masturbation

                          it's a parasitical social interaction on us all

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                          #72

                          @benroyce @petrichaos @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi Such flawed attempts at dialectic on social media result only in the burden-of-argument tennis; see Schopenhauer. https://burdentennis.com/ PS <30 days to real actual Wimbledon with yellow balls.

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                          • jamesnielsen@mastodon.socialJ jamesnielsen@mastodon.social

                            @jgg
                            For a private search enginge try startpage dot com
                            Anonymous mode and AI optional.

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                            #73

                            @JamesNielsen

                            AFAIK, Startpage results are taken from Google's engine, so it is not really independent.

                            Now that Google is ditching search results, I wonder what is Startpage going to do. Probably the same.

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                            • gnutrix@social.vivaldi.netG gnutrix@social.vivaldi.net

                              @Vivaldi Perfect. I regularly use AI in a separate tab to help me figure out what I want to search for, and then do the search. So much of what AI "answers" is unnecessary and gets in the way of the answers you're actually looking for. I don't want context for every question or search. For those who do want it, they should be the ones forced to opt-in, rather than forcing the rest of us to opt-out.

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                              #74

                              @gnutrix @Vivaldi Yeah I just turn the confabulating mean reverting LLM crap off any time I see it. Not all things called AI are bad. Wolfram Alpha.

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                              • torithom@theforkiverse.comT torithom@theforkiverse.com

                                @Vivaldi how is it only a fringe news story that Google is overhauling the search? This has huge ramifications for everyday people; it's not just a tech or business news story.

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                                #75

                                @Torithom @Vivaldi Google Search has been functionally dead for years now @Zitron

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                                • intangiblesloth@mastodon.worldI intangiblesloth@mastodon.world

                                  @jgg @Vivaldi noai.duckduckgo.com

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                                  #76

                                  @IntangibleSloth @Vivaldi

                                  Duckduckgo results, according to Wikipedia, come from a diversity of sources, including Google and Bing, so they are not really independent, and as Google is removing real search results, with Bing very likely doing the same, they may be doing the same soon.

                                  They made recently a poll about AI, with 90% of people refusing it; their answer was creating the noai version. That reveals a strong pro-ai bias, since the right thing would have been refusing to use AI at all, or creating a ai.duckduckgo.com and leaving the main domain AI free.

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                                  • mespique@mastodon.socialM mespique@mastodon.social

                                    @Vivaldi

                                    I'm only here for Four Seasons jokes.

                                    so far I've seen none.

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                                    #77

                                    @mespique

                                    I'm afraid none Spring to mind.

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                                    • mespique@mastodon.socialM mespique@mastodon.social

                                      @Vivaldi

                                      I'm only here for Four Seasons jokes.

                                      so far I've seen none.

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                                      #78

                                      @mespique @Vivaldi there's no need for senseless violins.

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                                      • ahau@tribe.netA ahau@tribe.net

                                        @ArtHarg @Vivaldi Ride the wave. Harness AI. It is not about computing. It is about understanding computer and everything else. There is no more barrier to any human knowledge. There is no such thing as "specialist". The AI era is like the 70s when I bought my first Apple IIe. It is like the 80s when I bought my first 80286 PC with only a 30M harddisk. It is like the 90s when I learned html and some Javascript. It is a learning experience, not just about AI, but everything else.

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                                        #79

                                        @ahau @Vivaldi Riding a tidal wave will just leave you stranded inland. Of course there are still barriers and of course there will always be specialists. Specialists are the people who can see where AI gets it wrong. They are the people who understand, while AI does not. Cannot. If AI can replace you, you weren’t a specialist to begin with.

                                        The thing is: you need to be a specialist to get the most out of AI. And you cannot be a specialist on everything.

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                                        • artharg@mastodon.nlA artharg@mastodon.nl

                                          @ahau @Vivaldi Riding a tidal wave will just leave you stranded inland. Of course there are still barriers and of course there will always be specialists. Specialists are the people who can see where AI gets it wrong. They are the people who understand, while AI does not. Cannot. If AI can replace you, you weren’t a specialist to begin with.

                                          The thing is: you need to be a specialist to get the most out of AI. And you cannot be a specialist on everything.

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                                          #80

                                          @ArtHarg @Vivaldi You see there is no real specialist. AI's training data is from sloppy humans. AI exposes the sloppiness and ignorance of humans. I am talking about specialists like Einstein and Maxwell. Their models are naive and are taught wrong at school. You don't need to be a specialist to understand what is wrong with these specialists. You only need a good brain even if you have very bad memories like myself. The age of ignorance is over. There is no more barrier to entry in anything.

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