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#Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons.

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

    So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

    Well not strictly, it's only for allies

    And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

    It's called #TrophyLab

    #UkraineWar

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    alterelefant@mastodontech.de
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    #4

    @benroyce
    That sounds like a win-win to me.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

      So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

      Well not strictly, it's only for allies

      And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

      It's called #TrophyLab

      #UkraineWar

      flowerpot@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @benroyce Brilliant.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

        So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

        Well not strictly, it's only for allies

        And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

        It's called #TrophyLab

        #UkraineWar

        nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @benroyce Ok, this is beautiful. 🤣

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

          So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

          Well not strictly, it's only for allies

          And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

          It's called #TrophyLab

          #UkraineWar

          nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          nathanmurdock@mastodon.social
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          #7

          @benroyce

          Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

          No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

          Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

          panicky_patzer@mastodon.socialP benroyce@mastodon.socialB gabriel@mastodon.samfira.comG 3 Replies Last reply
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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

            So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

            Well not strictly, it's only for allies

            And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

            It's called #TrophyLab

            #UkraineWar

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            #8

            @benroyce That's great!!

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            • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

              @benroyce

              Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

              No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

              Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

              panicky_patzer@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @NathanMurdock @benroyce Uh, have we forgotten that Russia is the aggressor who can call it quits and go back to not attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked at any point? Nobody's backing them into any corners here. You're giving some real, "But what was Ukraine wearing when it was raped?" energy with this comment.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

                So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

                Well not strictly, it's only for allies

                And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

                It's called #TrophyLab

                #UkraineWar

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                #10

                @benroyce oh that is *spectacular*

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

                  So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

                  Well not strictly, it's only for allies

                  And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

                  It's called #TrophyLab

                  #UkraineWar

                  bweller@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @benroyce The site

                  edit: appears to be limited to defense contractors, not open source

                  edit 2: oops, did not read to end of toot

                  https://trophylab.mod.gov.ua/en/

                  #TrophyLab #Ukraine

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                  • panicky_patzer@mastodon.socialP panicky_patzer@mastodon.social

                    @NathanMurdock @benroyce Uh, have we forgotten that Russia is the aggressor who can call it quits and go back to not attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked at any point? Nobody's backing them into any corners here. You're giving some real, "But what was Ukraine wearing when it was raped?" energy with this comment.

                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @panicky_patzer @NathanMurdock thank you

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                    • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce

                      Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

                      No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

                      Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @NathanMurdock

                      how does a people defending themselves from malice bear any sort of responsibility for that malice

                      yes indeed russia could be insane enough to nuke

                      and?

                      it is our job to meekly submit to russia or we are responsible for what russia alone chooses to do? you believe in some sort of insane lie that because we do not submit, that anything after that that *russia* decides to do, is somehow our fault?

                      why are you so fucking weak?

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                      • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                        @benroyce The site

                        edit: appears to be limited to defense contractors, not open source

                        edit 2: oops, did not read to end of toot

                        https://trophylab.mod.gov.ua/en/

                        #TrophyLab #Ukraine

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                        #14

                        @bweller oh yes. i said not strictly open source, only allies. which makes perfect sense

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @bweller oh yes. i said not strictly open source, only allies. which makes perfect sense

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                          #15

                          @benroyce oh my mistake, i did not read that 😅

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                          • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                            @benroyce oh my mistake, i did not read that 😅

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                            #16

                            @bweller well anyone buying russian arms can also learn about the weaknesses. the hard way 😁

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              #Military secrets are fiercely guarded for obvious reasons. But also obviously in a #war your enemy gets a lot of exposure to the operating parameters, capabilities, and weaknesses of your #technology. And gets plenty of physical samples

                              So #Ukraine just open sourced all of #Russia's military secrets 😆

                              Well not strictly, it's only for allies

                              And a knock-on effect is it devalues Russian arms sales because potential buyers know it's all exposed

                              It's called #TrophyLab

                              #UkraineWar

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                              #17

                              @benroyce @bweller This is fucking beautiful

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @bweller well anyone buying russian arms can also learn about the weaknesses. the hard way 😁

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                                #18

                                @bweller

                                PS:

                                I hadn't seen the site, thanks for the link. The sign up process is kind of funny. I can see them being inundated with requests from 14 year olds. We would suppose the access request process would be more discreet

                                But then again the real value of the site is in trolling Russia as loudly and publicly as possible. So the requests from teenagers is an acceptable cost, or even completely ignored. I don't think the French Govt for example will have to fill out this form

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                                • feloniouspunk@beige.partyF feloniouspunk@beige.party

                                  @benroyce @bweller This is fucking beautiful

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                                  #19

                                  @FeloniousPunk @bweller purely as a troll, nevermind the valuable info 😂

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @bweller

                                    PS:

                                    I hadn't seen the site, thanks for the link. The sign up process is kind of funny. I can see them being inundated with requests from 14 year olds. We would suppose the access request process would be more discreet

                                    But then again the real value of the site is in trolling Russia as loudly and publicly as possible. So the requests from teenagers is an acceptable cost, or even completely ignored. I don't think the French Govt for example will have to fill out this form

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                                    #20

                                    @benroyce @bweller Hell of an extracurricular to put on your NATO application, though.

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                                    • rgsharpe@sfba.socialR rgsharpe@sfba.social

                                      @benroyce @bweller Hell of an extracurricular to put on your NATO application, though.

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                                      #21

                                      @Rgsharpe @bweller 😂

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                                      • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce

                                        Isn't this also a downside risk? The Russian nuclear threat might be all they have left while they are backed into the corner.

                                        No matter how good it sounds that the Russian technological secrets are now revealed, I'm pretty sure the American/Allied governments would have already known most of that.

                                        Any nuclear strike by either side, will be a total horror, and massive catastrophe will ensue. There is no good outcome with that, and we are all pushing towards that eventuality.

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                                        #22

                                        @NathanMurdock @benroyce all Russia has to do is turn around and go home. Live in their own country as recognized by international law (that means leaving Crimea as well). And all of this stops. They are not backed into a corner. They are the ones attacking. And we have nukes, too (nobody will use one).

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                                        • gabriel@mastodon.samfira.comG gabriel@mastodon.samfira.com

                                          @NathanMurdock @benroyce all Russia has to do is turn around and go home. Live in their own country as recognized by international law (that means leaving Crimea as well). And all of this stops. They are not backed into a corner. They are the ones attacking. And we have nukes, too (nobody will use one).

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                                          #23

                                          @gabriel @NathanMurdock

                                          I think it's possible Russia could use a nuke

                                          But the real issue is how we respond to that threat

                                          If we freak out and give into demands that means we reward such behavior. Thus there will be more nuke threats (and more countries making them) thus increasing the chances of nuke use

                                          The only valid response to a nuke threat is assurances that Moscow and St Petersburg will cease to exist if they use a nuke

                                          This response alone delivers the smallest chance of nuke use

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