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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

    The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

    Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

    Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

    #FediTips #Fediverse

    sindum@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @FediTips kan se jeg måske skal finde en ny server. Nogen bud på en stabil dansk server med et godt ry? #dkfedi

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

      ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

      The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

      Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

      Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

      #FediTips #Fediverse

      ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @FediTips nah. I'm still salty that just by joining where it seemed natural, I got lumped into the "everybody suspects you" server. It's one of the things about Mastodon that simply doesn't make sense. Plus the migration from what I understand doesn't preserve followers, etc.? If I'm wrong please correct me.

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      • sindum@mastodon.socialS sindum@mastodon.social

        @FediTips kan se jeg måske skal finde en ny server. Nogen bud på en stabil dansk server med et godt ry? #dkfedi

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        #9

        @sindum

        I think https://expressional.social and https://mstdn.dk have good reputations?

        They are listed as complying with the "covenant" for technical reliability and responsible moderation.

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        • ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI ianto_jones@mastodon.social

          @FediTips nah. I'm still salty that just by joining where it seemed natural, I got lumped into the "everybody suspects you" server. It's one of the things about Mastodon that simply doesn't make sense. Plus the migration from what I understand doesn't preserve followers, etc.? If I'm wrong please correct me.

          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @ianto_jones

          Ah, apologies, wasn't trying to give that impression at all. If there's any criticism in the post, it's only meant to be towards the people who run the server and not the server's members.

          With migration, you preserve all your followers and follows. The posts stay behind, but they redirect people to your new account: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            @ianto_jones

            Ah, apologies, wasn't trying to give that impression at all. If there's any criticism in the post, it's only meant to be towards the people who run the server and not the server's members.

            With migration, you preserve all your followers and follows. The posts stay behind, but they redirect people to your new account: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

            ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @FediTips thank you, that sounds less painful than I expected. Might give it a shot.

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            • ianto_jones@mastodon.socialI ianto_jones@mastodon.social

              @FediTips thank you, that sounds less painful than I expected. Might give it a shot.

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              #12

              @ianto_jones

              Feel free to ask if you have any questions 🙂

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                #FediTips #Fediverse

                kohoso@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @FediTips As I try to understand these concerns, why is the ownership side of this still a worry when, back in January, it was announced that Mastodon GmbH would be placed under the control of a non-profit entity?

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                • northantsgreens@mstdn.socialN northantsgreens@mstdn.social

                  @FediTips in fairness this is what is one of the biggest networking challenges #Mastodon has against #bluesky is that you have to pick a server and people just want to sign up. The #GreenParty could use Mastodon today, but can't be bothered to do so, despite having the resources to do so. As they want to target where everyone is even if said platform goes against green party policies.

                  gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @NorthantsGreens @FediTips

                  Would it make sense for the party to run their own server which only has official accounts?

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                    The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                    Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                    Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                    #FediTips #Fediverse

                    morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @FediTips On the other hand won't shut down for ... whatever reasons.

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                      ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                      The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                      Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                      Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                      #FediTips #Fediverse

                      jjkrawczyk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #16

                      @FediTips
                      How does the transfer of follows / followers work when one or both accounts require approval for followers? Does the person get a new follow request?

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                        ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                        The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                        Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                        Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                        #FediTips #Fediverse

                        richardgrant@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @FediTips My friend, I believe you are wrong about this — though I do not question your sincerity or your noble intentions. We've had this disagreement before, and I am so bummed that you're still launching these unfair and inaccurate attacks.

                        More significantly, I question (again) your using the @fedi.tips account – which many people naturally assume is an official and impartial and 100% solid source — which it *is* mostly, except for this one strange blind spot — for a personal vendetta.

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                        • richardgrant@mastodon.socialR richardgrant@mastodon.social

                          @FediTips My friend, I believe you are wrong about this — though I do not question your sincerity or your noble intentions. We've had this disagreement before, and I am so bummed that you're still launching these unfair and inaccurate attacks.

                          More significantly, I question (again) your using the @fedi.tips account – which many people naturally assume is an official and impartial and 100% solid source — which it *is* mostly, except for this one strange blind spot — for a personal vendetta.

                          richardgrant@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #18

                          @FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.

                          And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                            ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                            The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                            Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                            Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                            #FediTips #Fediverse

                            tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #19

                            @FediTips

                            25%?!! Oh come on. You'd think the folks IN FAVOR OF DECENTRALIZING WOULD DECENTRALIZE.

                            Or even fork off another one of their own. Or multiples.

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                            • richardgrant@mastodon.socialR richardgrant@mastodon.social

                              @FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.

                              And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.

                              feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #20

                              @richardgrant

                              You've done a two-part reply which doesn't address any of the reasons given in the original post?

                              "And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko."

                              I think you must be confusing me with someone else? I have never attacked Eugen.

                              I have criticised some of his decisions, and praised other decisions. I've never made it personal about him.

                              He has contributed more than any other person to making Mastodon and that's an amazing achievement. But not every decision is good.

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                              • richardgrant@mastodon.socialR richardgrant@mastodon.social

                                @FediTips As before, what's going to happen now is that people will leave one of the best-run and well-moderated social media servers in the whole fucking world for sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months or plunge into petty de-fed feuds with other admins — a part of Mastodon culture you don't like to talk about.

                                And all because you evidently detest Eugen Rochko. And are willing to spend your hard-earned fediverse cred on this periodic pissing contest. FFS, drop it.

                                feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #21

                                @richardgrant

                                "sweet little alternatives that will vanish in the next 12 months"

                                That's just not true, most of the alternative servers I'm recommending have been working reliably for years:

                                https://fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-founding-year/

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                                • jjkrawczyk@mastodon.socialJ jjkrawczyk@mastodon.social

                                  @FediTips
                                  How does the transfer of follows / followers work when one or both accounts require approval for followers? Does the person get a new follow request?

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                                  #22

                                  @JJKrawczyk

                                  Followers (people who follow you) is automatic because they already followed you on the old account.

                                  As far as I remember, follows (people you follow) will mean the person gets a new follow request from you if they have follow requests switched on.

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                                  • kohoso@mastodon.socialK kohoso@mastodon.social

                                    @FediTips As I try to understand these concerns, why is the ownership side of this still a worry when, back in January, it was announced that Mastodon GmbH would be placed under the control of a non-profit entity?

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                                    #23

                                    @KoHoSo

                                    That is a really good step, and total respect to Eugen for taking it 👍 But it doesn't by itself solve the centralisation issue.

                                    By far the biggest server, the official apps, the official site, the trademarks on the word "Mastodon" would still all be in one entity, which makes it a target.

                                    Even non-profits can end up going down the toilet if they become dependent on big tech (e.g. Mozilla when they became dependent on Google). Mastodon hasn't done this so far though 🤞

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                                    • tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org

                                      @FediTips

                                      25%?!! Oh come on. You'd think the folks IN FAVOR OF DECENTRALIZING WOULD DECENTRALIZE.

                                      Or even fork off another one of their own. Or multiples.

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                                      #24

                                      @tomjennings

                                      Mastodon.social used to regularly close to new members and redirect people to register on another long-running reliable server. Maybe they could go back to doing this in some form or another?

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                                      • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

                                        @FediTips On the other hand won't shut down for ... whatever reasons.

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                                        #25

                                        @morph

                                        I'm not advising people to sign up on a random server. I'm linking them to well-run servers on curated lists that have certain standards of reliability and moderation.

                                        These good alternatives have mostly been around for years:

                                        https://fedi.garden/servers-sorted-by-founding-year

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          If you're on mastodon.social, you might want to move your account to a different server:

                                          ➡️ https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                                          The Fediverse is protected from takeover as long as we are spread out on many servers. If one server dominates, takeovers become easier.

                                          Mastodon.social is currently 25.5% of the active Fediverse. This proportion is way too large and seems to be increasing.

                                          Larger servers also tend to have worse moderation and are harder to defederate, threatening safety.

                                          #FediTips #Fediverse

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                                          #26

                                          @FediTips

                                          I think I changed my position in time.
                                          If you are already on mastodon.social and you are a regular fediverse user , it's probably a good idea to move to another instance.

                                          But this is for people that happen to know already the advantages of a decentralized network.
                                          Reality is that most people not in #fediverse, don't care still, they don't get the point.
                                          They'll understand it later on.

                                          I think new users, in the account creation process, should land to mastodon.social or anyway a predefined default server/group of servers.

                                          They will have the freedom to move later on, if they remain active users, if they care.
                                          The exit door is something they don't have elsewhere.

                                          This could be represented graphically leaving a default that's so natural to accept if you are in a hurry, like everyone trying a new thing is.
                                          See how graphically is represented the onboarding procedure on BS.

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