"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"
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@ShredderFeeder I don't think we CAN bring exactly the same energy. For the most part, we actually do care and I think that's inherent.
It's easy to make things worse, but it's difficult to make things better. If all you care about is making things worse for certain "others", there's lots of ways to do that. If you actually want to change things for the better ... well, that's not so simple.
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Then we will keep losing.
It's a two-party system, as much as it shouldn't be, it is, and with the 270 to win, until we get rid of the electoral college it's never going to change.
So you have to work from within.
In the primaries, vote as far left as you can. If it came to AOC vs. Hillary Clinton in a primary, I'd vote for AOC every time.
But in the general, I'll vote for the democrat, I no matter who.
it's the only way the world doesn't end soon.
@CStamp @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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Then we will keep losing.
It's a two-party system, as much as it shouldn't be, it is, and with the 270 to win, until we get rid of the electoral college it's never going to change.
So you have to work from within.
In the primaries, vote as far left as you can. If it came to AOC vs. Hillary Clinton in a primary, I'd vote for AOC every time.
But in the general, I'll vote for the democrat, I no matter who.
it's the only way the world doesn't end soon.
@CStamp @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
@ShredderFeeder I absolutely agree with you (and of course @benroyce ) on the necessary strategy.
I'm just saying that we can't accomplish this with the exact same "energy" as what people on the right are doing.
We care about policy. We have earnest internal debates on what the policies should be. What the priorities should be. I don't think that can, or should, be changed.
So we have to find our own way to promote voting.
@CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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@horqua What you write is consistent with what I wrote. I did not comment on causes of why people on the right vote no matter what, or why people on the left don't. My commentary was on the downstream effects.
Your commentary on age may be a reason why.
probably.
Kids don't have enough Rolling Stones in their lives...
"You can't always get what you wa-ant...
But if you try sometimes, you get what you need."
They're quick to give up the trying part.. I see this in my own kids all the time. They give up at the first sign of disappointment.
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@ShredderFeeder I absolutely agree with you (and of course @benroyce ) on the necessary strategy.
I'm just saying that we can't accomplish this with the exact same "energy" as what people on the right are doing.
We care about policy. We have earnest internal debates on what the policies should be. What the priorities should be. I don't think that can, or should, be changed.
So we have to find our own way to promote voting.
@CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
We have to give up caring about policy right now. We have to fix the big problem (Fascism) and then we can get down to actually helping people.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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We have to give up caring about policy right now. We have to fix the big problem (Fascism) and then we can get down to actually helping people.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
@ShredderFeeder Well, I think that continuing to care about policy is HOW we fix the big problem. Trump is deeply unpopular right now, and we're kicking ass in elections right now, and like it or not it is NOT because of the fascism (not directly, anyway).
Like it or not, Trump is unpopular on policy issues, like the Iran War and inflation. Democrats who are winning elections are winning on alternative policies.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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@ShredderFeeder Well, I think that continuing to care about policy is HOW we fix the big problem. Trump is deeply unpopular right now, and we're kicking ass in elections right now, and like it or not it is NOT because of the fascism (not directly, anyway).
Like it or not, Trump is unpopular on policy issues, like the Iran War and inflation. Democrats who are winning elections are winning on alternative policies.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
@ShredderFeeder We can absolutely win on issues of policy.
What we need to cut out is useful fool "purity" demands that every candidate must agree with you on every issue (or one particular issue in particular) or we won't vote - helping the Republicans win in order to teach "The Democrats" a lesson.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
"No. But politics does you."
@lionelb @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth The perfect response to wilful ignorance (apathy?) re politics.
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@ShredderFeeder We can absolutely win on issues of policy.
What we need to cut out is useful fool "purity" demands that every candidate must agree with you on every issue (or one particular issue in particular) or we won't vote - helping the Republicans win in order to teach "The Democrats" a lesson.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
EXACTLY.
Even if they're not 100% in agreement (and face it, NO ONE will be) vote for the one who most closely aligns with you.
7 million voters decided that not voting an allowing Trump to be elected was somehow the best thing for the world, as you said to "teach democrats a lesson"
And now we see how that's working out. Trump would be in prison right now if it weren't for them.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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@ShredderFeeder We can absolutely win on issues of policy.
What we need to cut out is useful fool "purity" demands that every candidate must agree with you on every issue (or one particular issue in particular) or we won't vote - helping the Republicans win in order to teach "The Democrats" a lesson.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
@isaackuo @ShredderFeeder @benroyce @CStamp @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech 100%, Isaac. I've been beating the drum of "Trump and Grassley aren't the ones sending their kids off to fight this pointless war" to anyone who will listen, because I think it is one issue we can actually woo former Turnip voters.
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@isaackuo @ShredderFeeder @benroyce @CStamp @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech 100%, Isaac. I've been beating the drum of "Trump and Grassley aren't the ones sending their kids off to fight this pointless war" to anyone who will listen, because I think it is one issue we can actually woo former Turnip voters.
@scottmiller42 "When *I* was 19 *I* almost died in a pointless war. It's what made me the broken shell of a human being that I am today." -some MAGAt, probably
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@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i'll give you my brutally honest response:
fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck
find new friends
really. fuck entitled lumps
i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I agree with you. They all have kids, the only thing they give a fuck about is getting little timmy to soccer practice on time, not the downfall of their entire society. People are tired and can't think beyond themselves even a miniscule amount.
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@ShredderFeeder I absolutely agree with you (and of course @benroyce ) on the necessary strategy.
I'm just saying that we can't accomplish this with the exact same "energy" as what people on the right are doing.
We care about policy. We have earnest internal debates on what the policies should be. What the priorities should be. I don't think that can, or should, be changed.
So we have to find our own way to promote voting.
@CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
@isaackuo It’s called putting on grownup pants, stop treating elections like popularity contests, stop thinking any person or party will ever be perfect. It is NOT difficult to look at 2 platforms and decide which one is better and which one is hell no. Seeing Spanky’s rallies with people holding up signs of “deport them now,” and him taking about revenge and electric boats and sharks should’ve been a “hell, no.” @ShredderFeeder @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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@isaackuo It’s called putting on grownup pants, stop treating elections like popularity contests, stop thinking any person or party will ever be perfect. It is NOT difficult to look at 2 platforms and decide which one is better and which one is hell no. Seeing Spanky’s rallies with people holding up signs of “deport them now,” and him taking about revenge and electric boats and sharks should’ve been a “hell, no.” @ShredderFeeder @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
"Grab em by the pussy" should have been the end of it. But that wasn't a dealbreaker for enough people.
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"Grab em by the pussy" should have been the end of it. But that wasn't a dealbreaker for enough people.
@isaackuo @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
@ShredderFeeder Right? Then the felony, fraud convictions, the rape settlement, the likelihood of his being a pedophile, the contract workers who came forward about his having stiffed them, so many red flags. They knowingly elected a crook and a thug, and after having been shown to have been one of the worst presidents in US history, they elected him again. & purity voters let them. @isaackuo @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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@ShredderFeeder Right? Then the felony, fraud convictions, the rape settlement, the likelihood of his being a pedophile, the contract workers who came forward about his having stiffed them, so many red flags. They knowingly elected a crook and a thug, and after having been shown to have been one of the worst presidents in US history, they elected him again. & purity voters let them. @isaackuo @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
@CStamp @ShredderFeeder @isaackuo @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech all people had to do was vote against the nazi and they fucked it up
republicans would vote for hitler as long as he ran as a republican and they proved my point -
"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"
Endless gloom and #doom stories about #Russia's #economy means you can forgive people for being jaded on the topic
They are correct that people saying #collapse is imminent are wrong
But
It's also wrong to conclude that Russia won't collapse
The truth:
It won't be tomorrow
But it also won't be never
Russia is in deep shit
@benroyce some good truth to it. RUS are strong in taking hardship = it takes a long time until they're fed up & can't endure any more. 1 significant point that tipped them to revolution always was starving. That's the line they draw. They will endure hell as long as they breathe if they are fed. As admirable this is, personally I like the FRA approach much better: don't gimme shit, I am gonna strike you to your knees we are all equal! Now show me your repsect & share the rights we all deserve.
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EXACTLY.
Even if they're not 100% in agreement (and face it, NO ONE will be) vote for the one who most closely aligns with you.
7 million voters decided that not voting an allowing Trump to be elected was somehow the best thing for the world, as you said to "teach democrats a lesson"
And now we see how that's working out. Trump would be in prison right now if it weren't for them.
@benroyce @CStamp @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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@CStamp @ShredderFeeder @isaackuo @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech all people had to do was vote against the nazi and they fucked it up
republicans would vote for hitler as long as he ran as a republican and they proved my point@terribletowelie Yup. It really wasn’t as complicated as the purity folk want to make it. @ShredderFeeder @isaackuo @benroyce @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
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