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  • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

    @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

    There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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    #70

    @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

      the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

      the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

      etc

      people forget:

      1. the historical evolution of a country or party
      2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
      3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

      then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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      #71

      @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

      Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

      This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

      All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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      • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

        @benroyce

        Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
        American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.

        @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech

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        #72

        @screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
        And he’s failed both times!
        What does that say about WTP?

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        • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

          @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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          #73

          @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

          Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

            the answer to

            "i don't do politics"

            is simple:

            "but politics does you

            so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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            #74

            @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

            "Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"

            (Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )

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            • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

              @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

              No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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              #75

              @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
              Denmark & Finland vie for ‘happiest country’ title. I’d say their governments have nailed it.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                every state has different rules about who can #vote in the #primary

                you got closed, partially closed, partially open, open to unaffiliated voters, open, multi-party, etc

                it's fucking complicated, and part of our problem with voting in general in the #USA because people are never educated about it and never figure it out

                it still doesn't mean they are free of blame IF THEY DON'T FUCKING VOTE IN THE #PRIMARIES

                educate yourself AND VOTE

                https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/state-primary-election-types

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                #76

                @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.

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                  #77

                  @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                  you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                  in party or across party lines

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                    you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting

                    in party or across party lines

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                    #78

                    @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                    • catdragon@mastodon.worldC catdragon@mastodon.world

                      @Sfwmson @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech my current response to those people is “thank you for the current SCOTUS. I am certain that as a cishet white male ( because for fucks sake they are cishet white males 99.9% of the time ) it will be quite some time before they impact you. Bravo.”

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                      #79

                      @CatDragon

                      That's a perrfect response

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                      • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                        @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                        Denmark & Finland vie for ‘happiest country’ title. I’d say their governments have nailed it.

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                        #80

                        @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                        (My ride is in garage till the ice is gone).

                        What pisses me off is we could have had what they have. The basic economics was in place, people were beginning to do well, even business was making money. We fought for civil right race & sex, education expansion. The right has been fighting ever since FDR to gain total control & bring back the depression. They finally did it.

                        Peace

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                        • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

                          Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

                          This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

                          All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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                          #81

                          @the_wub @benroyce @the5thColumnist @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Mexico's full name is Los Estados Unidos de Mexico

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                            "Because you know you will survive"

                            most of those cosplaying revolutionary will not survive a real revolution

                            furthermore, revolutions are not bastions of ideological purity. whoever wins could be worse. even if by some miracle something better does win, the new regime will still deal with impotent purists whining "but i want perfect, waah"

                            toxic idealists who bizarrely defer to revolution are excuse making for their own uselessness

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                            #82

                            @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                            They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                            • skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.usS skotchygut@social.seattle.wa.us

                              @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              They also seem to think it'll be just a jaunty weekend of bloodshed and then we all just roll over to whoever is on top after that. No, an actual revolution will take a decade of unspeakable horrors unfolding in their time. The rest of your life will be terrible. Your children's lives might be normal eventually. Only the grandchildren stand any chance of living better once that line is crossed.

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                              #83

                              @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                              and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                              none of this excuses our current suffering

                              it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                              and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @skotchygut @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                revolution cosplayers suffer from main character syndrome and think it will be like a movie

                                and they believe, hilariously, that the factions will be ideologically rigorous

                                none of this excuses our current suffering

                                it means they should be *effective* about fixing it rather than retreating into a cringe fantasy life (hint: VOTE)

                                and revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa but we're far from general famine

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                                #84

                                @benroyce @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                unfortunately, retreating into a cringe fantasy life is, if not the American dream, then at least the American past time.

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                                • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                                  @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.

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                                  #85

                                  @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                  • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                    @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                    #86

                                    @horqua @scottmiller42 @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                    in states where you can vote in primaries outside your party, i encourage such sabotage and vandalism. but this is a sideshow. the main game should be declare your party and contribute

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                                    • horqua@mastodon.socialH horqua@mastodon.social

                                      @scottmiller42 @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech The position of thw #WyoDems is party switching in ineffective. Here’s an essay on that topic: https://wyodems.net/dont-touch-that-switch/

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                                      #87

                                      @horqua @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech In Iowa, you can literally change party the day of the primary, then mail your post card to chargeback the same night.

                                      Regarding that letter, seems like their main point against switching for primary is you can’t switch until after the general, but so what? You can still vote for whomever you want on the ballot, right? I get how that may muck things up a bit for canvassing, soliciting donations, GOTV. Is that the real reason?

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                                      • scottmiller42@mstdn.socialS scottmiller42@mstdn.social

                                        @horqua @benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech In Iowa, you can literally change party the day of the primary, then mail your post card to chargeback the same night.

                                        Regarding that letter, seems like their main point against switching for primary is you can’t switch until after the general, but so what? You can still vote for whomever you want on the ballot, right? I get how that may muck things up a bit for canvassing, soliciting donations, GOTV. Is that the real reason?

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                                        #88

                                        @scottmiller42 @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                        well there is something to be said for putting your honest foot forward so you can build something

                                        your way has value, but it's more like guerilla warfare. rather than what we really need: actual political takeover

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @scottmiller42 @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech

                                          well there is something to be said for putting your honest foot forward so you can build something

                                          your way has value, but it's more like guerilla warfare. rather than what we really need: actual political takeover

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                                          #89

                                          @benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech TBF, I’ve never voted in a cross primary, it’s never seemed like the best chance, but if polling was close and I could oust Grassley with someone less despicable, I’d probably do it.

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