So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

[akamran@indieweb.social]

@mrundkvist @metin yeah, I don't get it either. Can you ask ChatGPT for example, "give me a list of prompts that Amira uses?" Or "that she used for this particular output?"

[jigend@mastodon.social]

@metin I think this is a real straw man situation. The most popular AI tools embed the prompts within the image files. The most popular 'casual' AI platform publicly posts prompts. And every single LLM can be used to create an image description for generated images allowing you to recreate images.

[supermoosie@mastodon.au]

@akamran @mrundkvist @metin

Yes, you can " give me a list of prompts that Amira uses"
And you word generator will go whir and make something up for you.

[akamran@indieweb.social]

@SuperMoosie @mrundkvist @metin see, that's what I don't get - it's a statistical word generator, so how can either the prompt maker or prompt taker be sure what the actual words are?

Although in either case, I'm inclined to be:

[tomtrottel@mastodontech.de]

@metin are they still on prompts ? the only way you can use genAI for images (and its still theft and bad quality) is by using something equivalent like compfyui with depth maps or line art and... oh i forgot for that you need skills in the first place...nevermind.

[timmc@better.boston]

@akamran @mrundkvist @metin I don't think there's any generic way to get the prompt—it's probably not embedded in the image, or anything like that.

I'm guessing it's as simple as someone having revealed the prompt they used, then getting mad when people copy it.

[metin@graphics.social]

@akamran @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist 1/2

I can think of three scenarios:

1. Some people share their prompt, probably a very detailed one. Then others copy and paste it, maybe change it slightly, but yielding a very similar result, which they then call their own “creation”, while the “original” prompter gets upset about that.

Or…

[metin@graphics.social]

@akamran @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist 2/2

2. Someone analyses a gen-AI result, then describes it very accurately as a prompt, yielding a very similar result.

Or…

3. It wouldn’t surprise me if there are already tools that allow you to reverse-engineer gen-AI results back to a probable prompt.

[epicanis@akkoma.dogphilosophy.net]

@metin@graphics.social FTA:

consider a poster who railed about “prompt thieves in the AI art community,” or the “AI artist” who went on a tangent after someone aped his prompt “without knowing it’s mine.”

“All my apes gone…”

[myview@aus.social]

@metin

I know I shouldn't laugh but there are times when nothing else will do ...

And even sardonic laughter is good medicine ...

[metin@graphics.social]

@MyView Yes, this is some satisfactory schadenfreude.

[dazzr@social.tchncs.de]

@metin "And so it came as a total surprise, that AI was of course stealing from the sloperators aka prompt engineers, basically from everybody contributing. The whole thing has been from the start only about stealing anything from anyone, to feed my machine".

You're not the customer, you are the product.

Slop, slop, sloppity slop.

[hoggrim@tiggi.es]

@metin
LMFAO

[jargoggles@kolektiva.social]

@metin
They're making it clear that creating things isn't what's important to them, it's about getting the recognition they think they're owed.

[sh41@androiddev.social]

@metin this is hilarious. The meta levels of irony are 🧑‍

[ki@chaos.social]

@cgudrian @metin
the similarities are rather limited anyway, writing prompts isn't creation

[toriver@mas.to]

@metin Slopiracy?

[lordcaramac@discordian.social]

@metin I am not against AI. I have been using all kinds of machine learning based image generators for roughly a decade by now. I am, however, against "intellectual property". How can something that is easily copied be considered "property"?
Every time I publish anything a virtual neural network made for me, I publish it with the ull prompt I used. The entire point of it all is that anybody can do it, and if I happen to come up with a prompt that generates interesting results, I want others to be able to use and modify it.
I also make old-fashioned pixel art with ancient paint software and new recreations of it, and I publish everything I make under CC licenses so other people can take it and modify it. I also paint pictures with acrylic paint on canvas or cardboard, I draw with pencils and felt tip pens, and I publish everything I scan under CC licenses. I really hope that all of my works have been used in several image generators because I absolutely want them to be able to produce images in my style automatically.
What I don't want is companies "owning" AI. Me being against I.P. obviously also includes software copyrights and things like that. I want everything, every bloody thing, to be in the public domain, I want everybody to be able to use any content in any way they like without having to pay any money to anybody and without asking for permission.

[teaneedz@social.vivaldi.net]

@metin the prompt stealers just need to adopt the small penis rule to shut down the prompt influencers.

"the original creator of this prompt is verified to have a smol..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_penis_rule

[jizzeletbass@kolektiva.social]

@metin What the heck? Seriously, if AI images are not subject to copyright, then it follows that prompts aren't either. Please, continue to steal Amira Zairi's prompts as much as possible if you are cool with burning down the planet.