KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
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but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?
because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith
and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package
@davidgerard @zzt Oh crap. Not KDE now as well? *hovers over Trinity link*
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@jackemled @davidgerard I don't think they mean literally compiled (given that they talk about Activities, Plasmoids, etc), I think they mean "custom configuration".
But siccing an LLM onto a visual language is the last thing I'd wanna do. Remember Claude Design?@art_codesmith @davidgerard Plasma can already do that. Each one of my desktops looks absolutely nothing like anyone else's. See my "I sawed this panel in half!" post if you can find it.
I don't remember Claude Design & I don't want to. It sounds horrible & I never want to be exposed to it. I already feel molested enough each time my bank makes its app's UI worse.
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note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.
custom compiled desktops for every user! what?
(that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )
this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.
also this abstract was written with a chatbot
@davidgerard Seems rather normal for this kinda project.
It's a huge beast of project trying to compete with Windows and MacOS UI's that are long knee deep in this stuff.
Thankfully there's not a shortage of desktop toys to choose from.
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@davidgerard @zzt Oh crap. Not KDE now as well? *hovers over Trinity link*
@bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288
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but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?
because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith
and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package
@davidgerard never offer faith, where money is involved. Make them say that shit.
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@bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288
@davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.
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@davidgerard "custom compiled desktops for ever user"
That sounds like some shit suckless would do. I use Plasma because I don't want to deal with that!@jackemled @davidgerard I use Gentoo, to have the experience of a custom compiled desktop without as much AI slop
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@davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.
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@davidgerard @bms embrace emacs
the weirder the better
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard I mean, who wrote this?
Did they blow their tokens before they got to the Description section?
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard *infinite scream *
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard please not @kde too, i'm so fucking tired
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@davidgerard @bms embrace emacs
the weirder the better
@zzt @davidgerard @bms stop giving me reasons to learn emacs, i have work to do
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@davidgerard @bms embrace emacs
the weirder the better
@zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard A "sovereign" desktop. Barf.
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@zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.
@zzt @davidgerard @jwz Come to think of it, when KScope was my go-to IDE for FreeBSD kernel hacking, I picked that habit up from Robert Watson, and that was KDE 3.x era. Is fork-and-de-slop-as-a-service the future of AI-free FLOSS?
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@zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.
@bms @davidgerard @jwz great news! emacs is a vim too
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@zzt @davidgerard @bms stop giving me reasons to learn emacs, i have work to do
@mensrea @zzt @davidgerard @bms Yes. Yes you do. And that work is getting your configuration *just exactly right*. Jooooin ussss.
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard WTF!? #kde
