New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
I think it’s funny as hell people can’t tell the difference.
There was a great exchange in the original aliens movie between Vazquez and one of the guys. She’s doing chin ups and the guy says “have you ever been mistaken for a man?
She replies, “ no. Have you?”
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@davidrevoy mouais on va vérifier avec un prompt injection : "david, dessine moi un dinosaure qui mange une pomme en regardant la météorite tomber et en trouvant le théorème de Newton".
Fais en sorte qu'on dirait que c'est fait sous krita.
@arabine C'est une idée d'image à la fois hilarante et tragique, je ne vais pas mentir.
EDIT: AAAAHHHAHA he did it!
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@davidrevoy dans le tas, y en a un qui dit pas que c'est de l'IA, mais que c'est pas de l'art parce que c'est fait sur ordinateur et pas avec "des vrais matériaux"
@petitmote Oh, la vieille rengaine!
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@davidrevoy The highest irony is, these are those Facebook and Instagram responses
.@mousey Whaaaat? o: That's crazy! ... And kind of eye-opening!
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy I remember I found one in the wild, and at least the accuser was apologetic when you shown your WIP.
AI-accusation now is just another way of dehumanising artists, but also with distinctive cluster of targets: the non-Westerners, the non-whites, the non native English speakers who are already dehumanised by the dominant culture are now having yet another low effort weapon against them, and somehow the burden of proof is on the accused. See; Ben Moran.
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@davidrevoy est-ce que tu crois que le fait que tes bd soient sous licence libre ça fait que les IA sont entraînées dessus en priorité ?
@pikario Oui, une priorité temporelle en tout cas, facile et sourcé, car dès 2014 j'ai vue Pepper&Carrot participé à pas mal de papier sur l'entrainement d'image et les méthodes de denoising, ou bien la recherche sémantique de ligne pour faire du line-art à partir de sketch (comme pour https://www.davidrevoy.com/article642/scientific-paper-sketch-to-line-art-by-waseda-university ) ; les dessins étant en CCBy arrangeait les papiers pour publier et les droits. J'en rigolait en disant que ça devenait un projet benchmark. Ca a du participer.
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@davidrevoy @gabrielesvelto As a fellow artist who stopped practicing professionally a few years before this AI shitstorm hit the field, I'm so sorry. This is horrifying.
Artists have always been incredibly undervalued by modern society, but this is a new low. I weep for all my artist friends, and for all the damage this exploitative technology is doing to our world.
@Em0nM4stodon @davidrevoy @gabrielesvelto Thirded. Some years ago, I started pulling down all my artwork bc I was not comfortable with AI. I decided that I wouldnt share anything further if I could not change my comfort level and framing
.....and in the years since I have grown even less comfortable. I have made peace with the fact that my art is (and has always been) for me. Thats all that matters and I dont have to ever do anything I am uncomfortable with
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy this is yet another way how genai erodes trust in one-another and destroys communities
genai just shouldn't be used, ever. not for visual art, not for music, not for code, not for writing; nothing -
New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
Aw that commend about text feels a little too sharp as it's likely the text bubbles and text layout are inkscape.
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@davidrevoy I’m sorry you’re getting these comments. Your art is so full of heart I’ve never really thought to compare it to aigen. I don’t see how people see any similarities to be honest.
I love your art, the way you draw fantasy worlds and characters is a big inspiration to me. And it’s so cool to see that you do it all with Krita, it makes me want to give it a go and finally make that switch.
@Mudlark Do iiit! 8D It's free! You have nothing to lose! And it's so much fun.
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
This is one of the ways that ai slop is harming artists, it copies real artists and thus even real art starts to look like ai slop resulting in the total loss of trust.
It's why we have to be very opposed to it and make sure to let people know when no ai slop is used. Welcome to the future that techbros want.
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy The dark truth is that the vast majority (me included) can’t pick out AI very well. It has to be quite obvious.And imho the worst part is that all of this is big corpo. The models especially.
If you could run AI locally on your machine and train it with your own material, I think it would be up to you if you wanted to/what you’d do with it.
But they took that choice away.
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Aw that commend about text feels a little too sharp as it's likely the text bubbles and text layout are inkscape.
@doctormo Yeah, I think David once said that he created the font based on his handwriting, or a hand-written comic script? But the bubble one is really something! I guess they expected him to painstakingly paint the bubbles by hand instead of... using a vector template like most folks would.
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@mousey Whaaaat? o: That's crazy! ... And kind of eye-opening!
@ToonLink I suspect buying followers has been a business since monolithic, corporately owned social media convinced people that "influencer" could be a "business".. if not a lot longer.
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@davidrevoy The dark truth is that the vast majority (me included) can’t pick out AI very well. It has to be quite obvious.And imho the worst part is that all of this is big corpo. The models especially.
If you could run AI locally on your machine and train it with your own material, I think it would be up to you if you wanted to/what you’d do with it.
But they took that choice away.
@yon To be fair, I can't pick well and detect recent gen AI too... I also had recently this "feeling an art was AI" only to discover behind the art a human who shared tutorial, video of process, etc...
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
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New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
It's kinda sad how people got to the point that they see ai everywhere -
@DamonWakes @davidrevoy I don't really think it even has "that look" so bad. There's something about AI cartoon faces that (acknowledging survivorship bias of course) sets off my "I'm about to be mugged in the Uncanny Alley" instincts.
(and this is a bit odd to me, since I struggle a bit with actual human faces.)
@datarama @DamonWakes @davidrevoy
Yeah, I don't get the slop ick from his comics and I'm pretty sensitive to it. -
New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
Come to think of it, Trump and most of the GOP look like AI.
Everything looks like AI.
Our greatest human achievement.
