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  • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

    “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

    Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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    #21

    @overholt@glammr.us@glammr.us Yes, I do see your destination, so do leave me behind, then forever leave me the fuck alone.

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    • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

      “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

      Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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      #22

      @overholt I'd also very much like to be left out of the financial crash just around the corner.

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      • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

        “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

        Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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        #23

        @overholt I realise I am in a privileged position where I don't have to interact with AI chatbots or LLMs at all and I'd like to keep it that way. Others aren't so lucky and I really feel for their predicament. It sucks.

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        • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

          “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

          Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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          #24

          @overholt

          Truly yes. THIS. They are going the wrong way.

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          • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

            “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

            Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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            #25

            @overholt

            I sure was glad of the fact that I learned the Rust programming language with the able assistance of my friends here, real encouragement I got from them.

            Not.

            I use AI pretty much every day of my life as a code assist. If any of these AI Chicken Littles want to work with me on Rust, they're welcome.

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            • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

              “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

              Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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              #26

              @overholt AI is a technology like any other, it can be useful, but it also makes it easy to make money with low effort. Until that is not true it will continue just pumping out slop.
              Some good uses of AI are, for example, suicide prevention at metro stations. AI systems trained to recognise people wanting to jump.

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              • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                #27

                @overholt Reminded the director of engineering, on a tire kicking visit from the UK, that either I've been unemployable for a year or llm boosters talk a lot of bullshit.
                I also said they make you stupid, which I expect to get some feedback on from the people between us on the org chart.

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                • jbqueru@floss.socialJ jbqueru@floss.social

                  @overholt If it's here to stay, there's no need to rush. The only things you need to rush for are temporary fads.

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                  #28

                  @jbqueru @overholt I remember being a callow youth telling old COBOLers that they were going to get left behind if they didn't learn an OO language.
                  Then we went through Y2K and they all retired early and I'm still working.

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                  • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                    “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                    Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                    #29

                    @overholt Please leave me behind. I am just short of retirement. I am going to find a cabin with no cell or internet service once retired. They should be pretty cheap at this point.

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                    • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                      “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                      Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                      #30

                      @overholt

                      - discovering 14 yo CVEs
                      - improving weather modelling
                      - improving protein folding
                      - improving crystalline material discovery
                      - clean-room open source rewrites of rentier software (Adobe,...)
                      - decompiling and reverse engineering rentier software and hardware

                      I think we're going in the right direction with AI

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                      • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                        @Scrimshaw9 @overholt You can't 'teach' the AI about democracy. It's not the 'AI' that needs to learn about that. It's the guys running the systems. And the only reason they're getting money is the promise of destroying democracy. Take that away, it all collapses.

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                        #31

                        @maccruiskeen @overholt What? You absoultely can develop models that value democracy and equality. So... nice cop out, I guess. Keep throwing baby out with the bathwater, see where that leads us. 🙄

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                        • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                          “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                          Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                          #32

                          @overholt
                          Does "left behind" mean "left alone?" That's what I'd really like.

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                          • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                            “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                            Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                            #33

                            @overholt "Where are we going?"
                            "AI city"
                            "Leave me behind"

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                            • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                              @maccruiskeen @overholt What? You absoultely can develop models that value democracy and equality. So... nice cop out, I guess. Keep throwing baby out with the bathwater, see where that leads us. 🙄

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                              #34

                              @Scrimshaw9 @maccruiskeen @overholt you can't teach these computer programs anything because they can't "learn". They can't place emotional value on anything. These are algorithmic word guessing, weighted probability machines. Just math(s). It's nothing more than a very expensive parlor trick.

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                              • joltrast@mastodon.socialJ joltrast@mastodon.social

                                @Scrimshaw9 @maccruiskeen @overholt you can't teach these computer programs anything because they can't "learn". They can't place emotional value on anything. These are algorithmic word guessing, weighted probability machines. Just math(s). It's nothing more than a very expensive parlor trick.

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                                #35

                                @joltrast @maccruiskeen @overholt Is democracy not math? Is electioneering not algorithmic math itself? Come on man... y'all pretend to be stupid while going out of your way pretending to be victims.

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                                • rupert@mastodon.nzR rupert@mastodon.nz

                                  @jbqueru @overholt I remember being a callow youth telling old COBOLers that they were going to get left behind if they didn't learn an OO language.
                                  Then we went through Y2K and they all retired early and I'm still working.

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                                  #36

                                  @rupert@mastodon.nz @jbqueru@floss.social @overholt@glammr.us Ignoring that OO is a big mistake outside of simulations, which include UIs, from everything I’ve heard the “old COBOLers” retire so much as got riffed.

                                  Some from lack of demand due to switching to other languages as you allude to, some because it was perceived they weren’t needed anymore, certainly not compared to cheaper young whippersnappers. COBOL still runs a lot of the world, though.

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                                  • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                                    @joltrast @maccruiskeen @overholt Is democracy not math? Is electioneering not algorithmic math itself? Come on man... y'all pretend to be stupid while going out of your way pretending to be victims.

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                                    #37

                                    @Scrimshaw9 @joltrast @overholt no, it is not math. It is participation, action.

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                                    • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                                      “If you don’t use AI you’re going to get left behind.”

                                      Gosh, I sure hope so. I see where you’re going and it sucks.

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                                      #38

                                      @overholt
                                      watching the slop-coded bus drive off the cliff

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                                      • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                                        @Scrimshaw9 @joltrast @overholt no, it is not math. It is participation, action.

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                                        #39

                                        @maccruiskeen @joltrast @overholt You found your way onto the metaverse yet you're pretending like there isn't an equivelent for AI because the circle jerk is to pretend that you're a victim of fascist AI creators. There's literally ppl trying for a humanist Ai and y'all pretending like Ai is all the same fascist thing in all instace.

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                                        • scrimshaw9@mastodon.socialS scrimshaw9@mastodon.social

                                          @maccruiskeen @joltrast @overholt You found your way onto the metaverse yet you're pretending like there isn't an equivelent for AI because the circle jerk is to pretend that you're a victim of fascist AI creators. There's literally ppl trying for a humanist Ai and y'all pretending like Ai is all the same fascist thing in all instace.

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                                          #40

                                          @Scrimshaw9 @joltrast @overholt 'Humanist AI'? AI is the opposite of humanist, intrinsically. It is literally the removal of the human.

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