Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

[kanary@sharkey.world]

@grote@chaos.social on Grapheneos you've to do the following

• Nothing
#grapheneos #fuckgoogle

[ahasty@techhub.social]

@leanderlindahl @grote

The only kind of side loading i know about

[anandu@mastodon.social]

@grote For developers, limited number of devices? Cool right? Also when can i turn of developers options? After 24 hours? What if google going to do something during that 24 hours like they going to install some app that going to monitor the apps we install or some walware app that activates after we install apps from other source so we will think its coz of that app.

[revan@shitpost.poridge.club]

@grote@chaos.social Stop using corporate language; this isn't a sideload, it's an installation. Just because it's done outside of Google Play Store doesn't make it any less of an installation. That's how they get to us - by taking away our speech.

[zeroase@fosstodon.org]

@grote "Advanced flow", meaning advanced cash flow into Google's greasy, greedy pockets.

[zeroase@fosstodon.org]

@grote "For power users, we think this is a fair trade-off." Now go and ask the power users.

[eingemaischt@chaos.social]

@grote will the phone be considered as "insecure" für banking apps?

[floreana@poliversity.it]

@grote
Allamaraine levels of complication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urixf-E6SWE

[vxo@digipres.club]

@grote
What the tricolor foaming fuck

[kurt@chaos.social]

@kanary @grote many usw grapheneOS with Google play. Let's see how they will do.

[khleedril@cyberplace.social]

@kepstin @LexYeen @grote The analogy I like to use is to imagine an old flour mill, with the loading door 30 feet in the air accompanied by an overhanging hook used to hold a hoist.

App stores are like loading flour by hoisting bags up to the virtually inaccessible loading door.

But if you just toss a bag of flour over your shoulder, walk in through the side door and go upstairs with it, no problem. That's side-loading!

[gunchleoc@mastodon.scot]

@deborahh @grote @gnomon It does say with biometrics or PIN, so you use your normal login method.

The whole thing is still though

[me@mastodon.cysioland.pl]

@AlisonW @LexYeen @grote it's a violation in Poland and when a driver runs you over while you're jaywalking you get a ticket

[lexlohr@chaos.social]

@grote It is about time the EU intervened. Setting up unreasonable hurdles to access third party apps is enforcing the own part of the duopoly of smartphone operating systems.

[theycallmehacked@social.tchncs.de]

@tootbrute @grote https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_5_(fairphone-fp5)

[tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one]

@TheyCallMeHacked @grote i live in Taiwan. They do not sell them here. Don't sell Jolla either.

Not sure if Furiphone can be shipped here. I need to register to look at my shopping cart there weirdly.

[chand_v_post@mastodon.social]

@WAHa_06x36 @grote thanks for the explanation.
I feel like google did not think about real tools to help people beside make as hard as possible to use 3rd party software.
No anti virus (that windows has it), no isolation tools, app verifier, only google protect but not sure about it (is it enough) .

[vitskalicky@fosstodon.org]

@grote
1. Keep forcing every serious developer to register with Google and accept their terms
2. Make it look like a security and safety feature

[enigmavoice@mastodon.ml]

@grote feels like there should be a "do a backflip" bulletin somewhere along the way.

[petealexharris@mastodon.scot]

@LexYeen @grote
Yeah, it's just a computer. It's specifically *your* computer. They have created a disparaging term for running the software you want on your own computer.