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ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

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  • kcpoole@mastodon.auK kcpoole@mastodon.au

    @parismarx isnt the web already dead?
    To me its virtually useless now

    jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @kcpoole @parismarx We're on the open social web right now.

    Rumors of the web's death are greatly exaggerated. 😅

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    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

      ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

      With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

      https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

      #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

      mikemorrow1956@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @parismarx I read this with much interest. As I was reading I found out that I had already done it!

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      • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

        ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

        With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

        https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

        #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

        thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @parismarx I started using #Kagi several months ago. After a quick foray with their free trial, I quickly decided that $10/month was well worth all the value they deliver (search, translate, assistant...).

        Since switching to Kagi, I don't think I've done a single Google search, unless it was by accident.

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        • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

          Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

          https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

          kjetilg@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @parismarx The Norwegian weather service Yr (meaning drizzle) is popular also internationally:
          https://www.yr.no/en
          They also have mobile apps.
          Made by MET Norway and the public broadcasting company NRK. Free and no ads.

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          • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

            ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

            With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

            https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

            #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

            ratsammich@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @parismarx
            Fortunately there are other search engines which still work, and some even let you block AI results. Setting google to only search results from before 2019 also helps, but it doesnt work for image searches for some reason.

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            • thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.socialT thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.social

              @parismarx I started using #Kagi several months ago. After a quick foray with their free trial, I quickly decided that $10/month was well worth all the value they deliver (search, translate, assistant...).

              Since switching to Kagi, I don't think I've done a single Google search, unless it was by accident.

              batsinlavender@hcommons.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @thegaffer @parismarx I've also been using Kagi on the $10/month plan and I'm really happy with it for the same reasons.

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              • kjetilg@mastodon.socialK kjetilg@mastodon.social

                @parismarx The Norwegian weather service Yr (meaning drizzle) is popular also internationally:
                https://www.yr.no/en
                They also have mobile apps.
                Made by MET Norway and the public broadcasting company NRK. Free and no ads.

                parismarx@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @kjetilg I'll check it out!

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                • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                  ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                  With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                  https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                  #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                  #13

                  @parismarx

                  A timely reminder that most products that Google tried to develop itself (instead of buying from competitors) miserably failed all the time!

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                  • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                    ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                    With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                    https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                    #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                    alpacamale@social.cologneA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @parismarx Haven't used Google search for about two years now. Search is a commodity and there are many alternatives. Getting rid of Google search is surprisingly easy. No network effects, no real incentive to stick with it. You can just go to another search engine. The cost of switching is basically zero.

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                    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                      ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                      With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                      https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                      #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                      mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @parismarx https://killedbygoogle.com/

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                      • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                        ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                        With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                        https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                        #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                        #16

                        @parismarx

                        It’s an utter stupidity…

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                        • alpacamale@social.cologneA alpacamale@social.cologne

                          @parismarx Haven't used Google search for about two years now. Search is a commodity and there are many alternatives. Getting rid of Google search is surprisingly easy. No network effects, no real incentive to stick with it. You can just go to another search engine. The cost of switching is basically zero.

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                          #17

                          @alpacamale @parismarx Exactly. Similar experience here.

                          IMO Google isn't going to kill the web or search, they're sabotaging their own business model. People are going to move on. At some point, google will inevitably reverse course.

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                          • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                            ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                            With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                            https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                            #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                            #18

                            @parismarx

                            Yep, over a year building a decentrilized search engine, i thought people here would have jump on #TidySearch

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                            • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                              ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                              With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                              https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                              #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                              #19

                              @parismarx well it was fun while it lasted ..

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                              • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                                #20

                                @parismarx moved away long time before LLMs got big, all the tracking and searches was linked to what you were fed when it came to advertisements online.

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                                • jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ jaredwhite@indieweb.social

                                  @kcpoole @parismarx We're on the open social web right now.

                                  Rumors of the web's death are greatly exaggerated. 😅

                                  kcpoole@mastodon.auK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @jaredwhite @parismarx I did say virtually useless,
                                  Mastodon and related social or some of the few places left that have not been enshittified

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                                  • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                    Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

                                    https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

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                                    #22

                                    @parismarx
                                    Google Docs is the one holdout. I do use Proton docs when I can but it's not as full-featured as Gdocs sadly

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                                    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                      Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

                                      https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

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                                      #23

                                      @parismarx thank you for this collection.
                                      Are you aware of the following hashtags:
                                      #did #didit #diday (Digital Independence Day)
                                      Most of the messages will be in German.
                                      The project started end of last year at the #ccc (Chaos Computer Club), the biggest German hacker society. https://www.ccc.de/en/
                                      Maybe interesting for you.
                                      Best regards from Germany
                                      Peet

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