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@jon Trafikverket estimates that it will take all day to fix. Could of course be just a pessimistic estimate, but it doesn't sound promising for 7185.
@jon OTOH this might be an unrelated fault: Murjek is west of Boden, so I guess it depends on whether Boden station has power or not. Tricky.
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@jon The closest that is public is this below link.
It mentions an electrical fault between Boden - Murjek which is mainly on Malmbanan, but it includes the short section where Haparandabanan branches off. So maybe it’s the one?
Estimated resolved tonight, so that’s not promising if so…
https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage
@jon If we have someone working at an operator, they have access to internal systems which is similar to the DB ones in Germany, with more detailed info not available to the public. I don’t have this access :((
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@jon The closest that is public is this below link.
It mentions an electrical fault between Boden - Murjek which is mainly on Malmbanan, but it includes the short section where Haparandabanan branches off. So maybe it’s the one?
Estimated resolved tonight, so that’s not promising if so…
https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage
@stefanlindbohm Has anything else left Boden I wonder?
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon 2. Stay pure.
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So I just called Norrtåg
There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus...
So how bad is this power line failure?
@jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Those things take everything from a few hours to half a day to fix, down south where there are a lot of trains.
Up north off the main lines, who knows. Depends how long they have to travel to get to the troubled spot.
The rail replacement taxi will be in the Interrail system, so should be fine for the record attempt?
Anyway, the worst timing possible...
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@jon OTOH this might be an unrelated fault: Murjek is west of Boden, so I guess it depends on whether Boden station has power or not. Tricky.
@gufo Right. That's what's hard to estimate!
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@stefanlindbohm Is there any website that explains this in any way? If this were DB at least I would half know how serious it was!
@jon A replacement bus is scheduled at 0741, it even shows the registration number. If you change your rules. https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/tag/?Train=7183-TR-5068-7181-20260908
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@jon A replacement bus is scheduled at 0741, it even shows the registration number. If you change your rules. https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/tag/?Train=7183-TR-5068-7181-20260908
@interrailinfosvenska Yes, I have that on the screens here!
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Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?
It currently looks like it will be a train...
@jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm The inbound trip is listed as "await time", so the chances of it arriving Haparanda in time to turn around seem slim.
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@stefanlindbohm Has anything else left Boden I wonder?
@jon There’s a SJ train schedules to leave just about now. But it arrived and departs from/to the south. So might not be affected depending on how the power sections are arranged.
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@jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Those things take everything from a few hours to half a day to fix, down south where there are a lot of trains.
Up north off the main lines, who knows. Depends how long they have to travel to get to the troubled spot.
The rail replacement taxi will be in the Interrail system, so should be fine for the record attempt?
Anyway, the worst timing possible...
@nafmo @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm but the problem is between Boden and Murjek: https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage The question then is WHERE, and if this impacts the small part of the track exiting Boden that the line to Haparanda takes?
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@gufo Right. That's what's hard to estimate!
@jon Either way, it's the only power failure I can find documented, so it's likely this one — and with a long time to recovery. You may need to consider changing your rules, which opens the door for someone else to make a "clean" run (without emergency replacement traffic).
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@jon Either way, it's the only power failure I can find documented, so it's likely this one — and with a long time to recovery. You may need to consider changing your rules, which opens the door for someone else to make a "clean" run (without emergency replacement traffic).
@jon I don't envy that decision
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@nafmo @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm but the problem is between Boden and Murjek: https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage The question then is WHERE, and if this impacts the small part of the track exiting Boden that the line to Haparanda takes?
@jon @nafmo @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Well, I guess if Trafikverket says they need the whole line Boden–Murjek for urgent maintenance, Norrtåg can not say "but we only need to use it for a couple of kilometres a couple of times per day pretty please!?" Ordnung muss sein! Safety First!
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So I just called Norrtåg
There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus...
So how bad is this power line failure?
Trains *are* running in Boden
https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/tag/?Station=Boden+C&ArrDep=departure -
@jon @nafmo @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Well, I guess if Trafikverket says they need the whole line Boden–Murjek for urgent maintenance, Norrtåg can not say "but we only need to use it for a couple of kilometres a couple of times per day pretty please!?" Ordnung muss sein! Safety First!
@tml @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Maybe the trains they need to run there are stuck on the wrong branch line?
Interestingly, Haparanda is not listed as an impacted station on Trafikverket's page, so it didn't really make sense
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@tml @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Maybe the trains they need to run there are stuck on the wrong branch line?
Interestingly, Haparanda is not listed as an impacted station on Trafikverket's page, so it didn't really make sense
@tml @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm If I look up Boden, the problem is listed there, with a prognosis of being fixed night to Wednesday...
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Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!
This train journey starts in Kemijärvi
and ends in Lagos 
18 trains, 100 hours 9 minutes, 4008km as the crow flies, 6281 route-km
The background to this project is here:
https://longestjourney.crossborderrail.eu/And the live tracking throughout is here:
https://longestjourneylive.crossborderrail.eu/I did do Oulu (finland) to Calpe (spain) this summer with bus, train and ship in a three days journey. Bus mostly so I could create a tighter schedule and avoid busy Barcelona.
I see you ran already into some problems.
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Can some Finn please explain this road sign seen in Kemijärvi earlier?
Is it "you will only hit elk on the roads in half of Finland"? Is there some elk wall across the middle of the country?
EDIT: OK, it's a reindeer herding area
But I have questions!
The antlers on that sign are wrong.
And given I was a LONG way into the area, why do I need the map?
@jon About the reindeer herding area: they are semi-domesticated. Meaning they have a owner but roam freely. They aren't afraid of humans like wild animals and sometimes they hang around on roads. This is a risk because they won't flee when disturbed so if you go by car you have to stop and wait for them to move out of your way and you're not allowed to scare them off the road.
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@tml @jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Maybe the trains they need to run there are stuck on the wrong branch line?
Interestingly, Haparanda is not listed as an impacted station on Trafikverket's page, so it didn't really make sense
@nafmo @tml @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm No, Haparanda - Luleå is one train going back and forth. So ought to be OK.
