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  3. 🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners.

🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners.

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  • jc00qe@mastodon.socialJ jc00qe@mastodon.social

    @noybeu I think the real solution is to outlaw data-brokers. remove the incentive structure and thats it

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    #23

    @Jc00qe @noybeu
    You can just block third party cookies right now for a start.

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    • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

      @Jc00qe @noybeu
      You can just block third party cookies right now for a start.

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      #24

      @Jc00qe @noybeu

      Not sure if "local storage" is bound by the same third party rules.

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      • streetcoder@mastodon.socialS streetcoder@mastodon.social

        @noybeu And last but not least if the banners will really be killed, most VLOPs sites will continue with visitor stitching and track everything in a hidden server to server way.

        So given that, the server infrastructure would have to be inspected from time to time by official inspectors. Who should do that? Which organisation do you trust.

        It's a mess.

        BTW: I'm angry to Mozilla hiding the Google Analytics requests in Dev Tools beside they are clearly coming through with almost all data.

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        #25

        @streetcoder @noybeu
        Mozilla gets 85% of their annual revenue from Google, if that helps

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        • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

          @streetcoder @noybeu
          Mozilla gets 85% of their annual revenue from Google, if that helps

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          #26

          @RnDanger @noybeu

          Could be part of the problem. I think Mozilla is routing GA requests through their own servers and claim it's for privacy reasons.

          But why do they not show these analytics request in dev tools?

          I can see them! All of them which are running through my clients websites with Server Side GTM. All tracking parameters are unchanged, same same, no privacy.

          They still could profile and target people, I can redact this before Google, but not before Mozilla Servers are reached.

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          • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

            🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

            💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

            📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

            ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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            #27

            @noybeu do you know of an initiative like this that includes the UK?

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            • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

              🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

              💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

              📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

              ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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              #28

              @noybeu
              It... already exists. Most browsers give the option to refuse all cookies.
              It also already existed before the RGPD, that's why the RGPD was completly useless about dealing with cookies.

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              • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                @RichiH Hi Richard, if you click on the names, you'll be forwarded to the MEP's subpage of the European Parliament. There you can see more information about them.

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                #29

                @noybeu fair point. Though from a perspective of coordinating a LOT of human action, you want to minimize the amount of friction for everyone.

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                • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                  🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                  💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                  📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                  ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                  #30

                  @noybeu I've heard claims the resolution does more than just give a brower-level "reject all optional" but I need to verify that claim.

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                  • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                    🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                    💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                    📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                    ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                    #31

                    @noybeu So glad to read some concerted action is at least afoot to try stop this constant cookie harassment. Thanks for the heads-up!

                    I got so miffed by this scam that a few years back I made a T-shirt to tell others how I felt...
                    No one even commented on it, let alone agreed. Oh well, let's hope the pros get better results.

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                    • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                      🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                      💡 The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                      📃 A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                      ➡️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                      #32

                      @noybeu should've been the "do not track" header all along

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                      • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

                        @Jc00qe @noybeu
                        You can just block third party cookies right now for a start.

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                        #33

                        @jerrej @noybeu i get it, they called it 'solution' that's what i was harping on about.

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