There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird The only people I've personally met who have bought into LLM hype at face value are boomers... and I feel like it's related to that period in the 90s where some folks called the Internet a fad and nobody wants to look that foolish again.
Altho I am starting to wonder if there will still be an Internet in a few decades.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird It really bugs me when someone I respect technically is a big AI fan.
But "programming" AI is really a form of hacking. You're trying to persuade an LLM to produce the right output. And hacking is really addictive. It's way more fun than project plans, and groups of people working together, and QA. It's a solo effort where you feel like you have a lot of power.
And I think that sucks in a lot of technical people.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird I think I played with AI when it first came out like it was a toy. I didn't understand about the environmental issues with data centers, or the fact that it's hoped-for profitability is based on its supposed ability to displace millions of white collar workers.
So now I guess it's going to cause a massive economic meltdown and create deadly viruses the moment one gets access to a CRISPR machine. It's too bad it couldn't just be a harmless toy that never did real damage.
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It's not really true that "the most tech" people have the harshest words for it. Most tech people, including the tech influencers, have no real idea how technology works and are variously enthused by AI.
Hi, tech person here, 25+ year software career, LLMs are irredeemable garbage. HTH
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My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.
@rgulick @futurebird My kid is 16, and whenever he spots something ai-made his disgust is real.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
They legislated corporations being agents, to allow crime in a corporation suit.
I'm sure our legislators are being lobbied to do the same for LLMs. The lack of prosecution so far confirms this.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird
My 32 yo bro uses it as a toy. To make funny photos and make it say funny things about his friends. The photos are pretty hilarious tbh so i get the appeal of playing, but i know too much (about the social & environmental affects, not the tech) to use it. He doesn't use it for any kind of business or educational purpose. So theres a contingent of folks who "like" AI but still don't take it seriously. -
My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.
@rgulick @futurebird I saw someone else mention that too, maybe a year or so ago.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird LOL. So true. This old person understands tech a lot better than most... And I loathe AI.
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@futurebird I've never been "hip and with it." So why start now?
@APBBlue @futurebird Dunno. Maybe as some sort of penance? Have you done anything needing one?
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@APBBlue @futurebird Dunno. Maybe as some sort of penance? Have you done anything needing one?
@timtfj @futurebird probably
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@futurebird "do crime in a computer suit"
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird
"do crime in a computer suit"
*chef's kiss*
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My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.
@rgulick @futurebird I've heard my daughter's friends use "that's AI" to mean the thing someone asserted is not true - that they're repeating unreliable bullshit.
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@rgulick @futurebird I've heard my daughter's friends use "that's AI" to mean the thing someone asserted is not true - that they're repeating unreliable bullshit.
Yeah my students do this.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird yes, this. Gods, so much this.
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@rgulick @futurebird My kid is 16, and whenever he spots something ai-made his disgust is real.
@idiran @rgulick @futurebird I'm 45, and every time I see something made by "AI" I'm disgusted too.
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There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.
The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.
@futurebird I can attest to the fact there are many software developers who understand how it works well enough and are in fact big fans of LLMs, at least for software development purposes. FWIW though I don't know of any of those who are fans of it outside of that realm
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My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.
@rgulick @futurebird My daughters do the same. It's widely used slang now for anything crappy.
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It's not really true that "the most tech" people have the harshest words for it. Most tech people, including the tech influencers, have no real idea how technology works and are variously enthused by AI.
@richpuchalsky @futurebird AFAIK on average, programmers are against LLMs, though media bias can make it feel the opposite (just as the media was full of people saying cryptocurrency/blockchain/NFTs were the future, even though everyone I knew personally figured they weren't useful for anything). On the votes I'm aware of, most programmers are against LLMs.
For large open-source projects, I think there's also the problem of wanting to compromise with corporate interests and the handful of long-time contributors that want to use LLMs. (Plus the bit where many companies are forcing employees to use LLMs, when LLM use has been described as addictive.)
