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  3. hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi.

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

    nope, they're now doubling down further.

    this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

    what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

    KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

    the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

    https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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    #12

    @davidgerard @blogdiva Whoever runs that account needs to log off and/or resign

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

      nope, they're now doubling down further.

      this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

      what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

      KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

      the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

      https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

      womble@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @davidgerard in any case, now that mods, sysadmins(?), and other participants *have* been made aware, the outcome is... the Nazi is still in the bar. Which shows exactly what would have happened had the suggested action (private notification) been taken.

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

        nope, they're now doubling down further.

        this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

        what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

        KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

        the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

        https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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        #14

        @davidgerard Ok, but nazis go into restaurants to randomly punch people & the restaurants love the nazis. See "Mark Punchers"

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        • womble@infosec.exchangeW womble@infosec.exchange

          @davidgerard in any case, now that mods, sysadmins(?), and other participants *have* been made aware, the outcome is... the Nazi is still in the bar. Which shows exactly what would have happened had the suggested action (private notification) been taken.

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          #15

          @womble @davidgerard
          > they were also banned for their conduct outside of KDE being so unacceptable that people inside KDE did not want to associate with them.
          https://pointieststick.com/2026/09/23/kde-and-ai-and-you-and-me/

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

            nope, they're now doubling down further.

            this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

            what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

            KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

            the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

            https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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            #16

            @davidgerard wow. I think I'm just going to swear off technology forever and go live in the woods.

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            • despicable_me@mastodon.socialD despicable_me@mastodon.social

              @womble @davidgerard
              > they were also banned for their conduct outside of KDE being so unacceptable that people inside KDE did not want to associate with them.
              https://pointieststick.com/2026/09/23/kde-and-ai-and-you-and-me/

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              #17

              @despicable_me @davidgerard I don't trust that narrative, since pointing out someone's prior public statements is in no way "doxing". If the author is willing to misrepresent the situation to that extent, they're not a reliable narrator.

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                nope, they're now doubling down further.

                this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #18

                @davidgerard "even if it turned out they deserved it"

                UM...WHAT THE FUCK!?

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                  nope, they're now doubling down further.

                  this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                  what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                  KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                  the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                  https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                  #19

                  @davidgerard imagine blocking a user for *checks notes* committing a logical fallacy (the recipient somehow deserved)...

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                    nope, they're now doubling down further.

                    this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                    what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                    KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                    the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                    https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #20

                    @davidgerard

                    a solid aspect of social existence:

                    1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching

                    2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"

                    alternatively:

                    1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
                    2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worse

                    i don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again

                    from school principals to... social media mods

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                      nope, they're now doubling down further.

                      this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                      what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                      KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                      the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                      https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                      #21

                      @davidgerard

                      Scratch a centrist, find a Nazi.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @davidgerard

                        a solid aspect of social existence:

                        1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching

                        2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"

                        alternatively:

                        1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
                        2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worse

                        i don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again

                        from school principals to... social media mods

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                        #22

                        @benroyce @davidgerard Story of my life.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @davidgerard

                          a solid aspect of social existence:

                          1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching

                          2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"

                          alternatively:

                          1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
                          2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worse

                          i don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again

                          from school principals to... social media mods

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                          #23

                          @benroyce @davidgerard

                          paradox of tolerance and why you cannot be nice with bullies. it doesn't help, especially if you know they are greedy AND stupid. they will always change the goal posts.

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                            nope, they're now doubling down further.

                            this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                            what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                            KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                            the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                            https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                            #24

                            @davidgerard

                            > the correct way to proceed is to alert mods

                            On the Enterprise we have the Chain of Command, cadet!

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @davidgerard

                              a solid aspect of social existence:

                              1. bully bullies someone. observers stand around watching

                              2. bullied person fights back. observers go "woah woah! stop!"

                              alternatively:

                              1. bully bullies someone. people complain. authorities do nothing
                              2. bullied person fights back. authorities act. and punish bully and bullied the same, sometimes the bullied worse

                              i don't know what it is about sociology, but you see this time and time again

                              from school principals to... social media mods

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                              #25

                              @benroyce @davidgerard

                              The story of centuries...

                              The "cause" is never punished...

                              The "effect" is usually punished.

                              ---
                              The effect should walk.

                              The cause should go to jail (or similar, depending what the cause is...)

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                              • johnjburnsiii@kzoo.toJ johnjburnsiii@kzoo.to

                                @benroyce @davidgerard

                                The story of centuries...

                                The "cause" is never punished...

                                The "effect" is usually punished.

                                ---
                                The effect should walk.

                                The cause should go to jail (or similar, depending what the cause is...)

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #26

                                @JohnJBurnsIII @davidgerard

                                it really is the case

                                {someone gets victimized}

                                statement to victim: "well why were you there? well why did you act like that? well you should have done {X}..." etc., etc.

                                statement to offender: {crickets}

                                it's something about humanity that is deeply wrong and powers a lot of malice in it

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                                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                  hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                  nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                  this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                  what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                  KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                  the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                  https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                                  #27

                                  @davidgerard
                                  You can tell they're the good guys by the way they're twisting themselves into knots to justify defending a Nazi.

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                                  • womble@infosec.exchangeW womble@infosec.exchange

                                    @despicable_me @davidgerard I don't trust that narrative, since pointing out someone's prior public statements is in no way "doxing". If the author is willing to misrepresent the situation to that extent, they're not a reliable narrator.

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                                    #28

                                    @womble @despicable_me @davidgerard that narrative is additionally simultaneously a paean to slop and a dissembling bothsidesing, it's astounding how terrible it is

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                      nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                      this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                      what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                      KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                      the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                      https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                                      #29

                                      @davidgerard thrown out and hopefully let back in when it turns out they punched a Nazi right?

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                        nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                        this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                        what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                        KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                        the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                        https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                                        #30

                                        @davidgerard I just read KDE's blurb.

                                        "KDE is an open community of friendly people who want to create a world in which everyone has control over their digital life and enjoys freedom and privacy"
                                        An open community ceases to be a community, when a Nazi enters the neighbourhood.

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                                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                          hm, i thought KDE was trying to make up for platforming the nazi. lots of people today saying "let's give KDE a chance!"

                                          nope, they're now doubling down further.

                                          this post is a study in the art of nazi apologetics in online discourse - removing the content of the issue and leaving only a description phrased to sound innocent.

                                          what happened is that the straight-up nazi was posting, someone identified that this person was a straight-up nazi, the nazi admitted they were that nazi, then KDE banned the person calling out the nazi and kept the nazi

                                          KDE *later* banned the nazi - after public outrage at KDE's behaviour - but the person who called the nazi out is still banned

                                          the social media person sympathising here with the nazi tries to claim that calling out the nazi is equivalent to real world violence.

                                          https://archive.ph/dPms4#selection-1304.0-1304.1

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                                          #31

                                          @admin This is something you should probably be made aware of, if you're not already.

                                          While I don't know that KDE has directly violated your rules at this point in time, they have demonstrated that they don't really represent what your server stands for anymore and are exhibiting a lot of disturbing and dishonest behaviors.

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