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  • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

    sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    #39

    you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

    wrong, but you just did.

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    • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      I don’t want debate. I want you to stop making things up and spreading them as fact.

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      heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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      #40

      ooo, i get this every time i call out medical practitioners for committing crimes. within hours. which one was it you personally committed?

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      • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

        Community defences is a suitable replacement.

        I can point to millions of examples of cops and courts getting it wrong and innocent people suffering and dying, yet that’s not an argument against the system for you so why should it be against community management?

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        village604@adultswim.fan
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        #41

        I’m not disagreeing with any argument against the current system, I’m just saying that putting the power in the hands of the people isn’t a suitable replacement.

        Professional, highly educated and properly trained law enforcement with robust civilian oversight is the solution.

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        • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

          wrong, but you just did.

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          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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          #42

          let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.

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          • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

            And other shit liberals tell themselves to never attempt change.

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            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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            #43

            call me when you’ve built a single homeless shelter. just one. then you can lecture me on anything.

            you just sit behind your keyboard. Some of us (not you) actually live it.

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            • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

              let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.

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              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #44

              another appeal to ridicule, but no evidence that money or government are inevitabilities.

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              • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                ooo, i get this every time i call out medical practitioners for committing crimes. within hours. which one was it you personally committed?

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                commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                #45

                great. ad hominem with a red herring. still no evidence for your claim that government and money will pervade every society.

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                • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                  i don’t see how. do you have a crystal ball?

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                  village604@adultswim.fan
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                  #46

                  No crystal ball, but history repeats itself. That shit isn’t even in the distant past.

                  Do you honestly think that groups of people with no experience in criminal investigations will get it right more often than people who dedicated their lives to it?

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                  • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    if you’re going to just make things up, you should start off by letting everyone know so tehy don’t waste their time on your storytelling.

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                    village604@adultswim.fan
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                    #47

                    What exactly am I making up?

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                      commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      #48

                      i explicitly said i don’t want a debate.

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                      • V village604@adultswim.fan

                        What exactly am I making up?

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                        commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #49

                        every line of that comment.

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                        • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          i explicitly said i don’t want a debate.

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                          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                          #50

                          yet you keep demanding i provide logic and evidence. what is that but demanding a debate? do you really think everyone here is that stupid?

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                          • V village604@adultswim.fan

                            No crystal ball, but history repeats itself. That shit isn’t even in the distant past.

                            Do you honestly think that groups of people with no experience in criminal investigations will get it right more often than people who dedicated their lives to it?

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                            commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            #51

                            i think that the systems that govern us are unjust in a myriad of ways. i’m willing to tolerate some level of injustice in dealing with antisocial behavior, since i get that already, if it means we can throw off all the rest of the oppression we face from being governed.

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                            • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                              yet you keep demanding i provide logic and evidence. what is that but demanding a debate? do you really think everyone here is that stupid?

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                              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              i am not demanding anything. i’m pointing out that you literally made up your claim, and rather than even try to support it, you play rhetorical games.

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                              • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                i am not demanding anything. i’m pointing out that you literally made up your claim, and rather than even try to support it, you play rhetorical games.

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                                heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                                #53

                                that’s how speech works. people make up what they say. do you shout that at everyone?

                                edit: wait, do you only communicate in quotes? Is that what you were expecting?

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                                • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  i am not demanding anything. i’m pointing out that you literally made up your claim, and rather than even try to support it, you play rhetorical games.

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                                  inputzero@lemmy.world
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                                  #54

                                  Fine you don’t want to have a debate or have people challenge your opinions. You only want to tell others that their opinions are objectively wrong and everyone else except for you and your chosen few are idiots. My dude, what you’re doing isn’t new, I’ve been seeing it on the internet for decades.

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                                  • C cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    Similarly, a politician can abuse kids with impunity, but you can go to prison for seeing pictures of him doing it (or of others doing the same).

                                    I’m not saying that possession of CSAM shouldn’t be illegal, but if we’re not prosecuting the crimes they depict, then is what they depict the crime or is it the knowledge it’s happening and who’s doing it?

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                                    rampantparanoia2365@lemmy.world
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                                    As far as I know CSPAN comes with most cable packages.

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                                    • I inputzero@lemmy.world

                                      Fine you don’t want to have a debate or have people challenge your opinions. You only want to tell others that their opinions are objectively wrong and everyone else except for you and your chosen few are idiots. My dude, what you’re doing isn’t new, I’ve been seeing it on the internet for decades.

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                                      commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      #56

                                      I am right, they are wrong. they made baseless claims and proceeded to posture as though I was wrong for calling them out.

                                      your characterization doesn’t change any of the facts.

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                                      • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                        that’s how speech works. people make up what they say. do you shout that at everyone?

                                        edit: wait, do you only communicate in quotes? Is that what you were expecting?

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                                        commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        #57

                                        that’s how speech works. people make up what they say.

                                        when making claims about the natural world, doing that is worse than just keeping your mouth shut.

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                                        • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          that’s how speech works. people make up what they say.

                                          when making claims about the natural world, doing that is worse than just keeping your mouth shut.

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                                          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                                          #58

                                          shame you wouldn’t recognize when you’re talking to an expert, since they have information and experience that contradicts your keyboard warrior lifestyle. but go off.

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