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  3. #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

#WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

    This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

    My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

    🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

    #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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    rresoli@mastodon.opencloud.lu
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    #61

    @_elena Theater is the perfect term @EUCommission @aral

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

      This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

      My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

      🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

      #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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      failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #62

      @_elena @EUCommission @aral

      I am not a programmer, at all, zero knowledge, but for 20 years, I've been listening to OS evangelicals tell me how important OS is

      and you know what ?
      I don't care
      I really don't

      and I am, among my entire circle of friends/family/coworkers, the "odd guy" who cares about stuff like this

      so if I don't care, I would guess that 98% of the population doesn't care

      so maybe OS evangelicals need a better message ?

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      • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

        @_elena @EUCommission @aral

        Of course, because the EU has never had a problem with what the US does domestically in terms of things like surveillance, information control, censorship etc, they just want to be able to do it for themselves.

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        harald_korneliussen@mastodon.partipirate.org
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        #63

        @contrasocial @_elena @aral Just read that @EUCommission vice chair and notable Russia hawk Kaja Kallas was on Peter Thiel's invitees to his "Dialog" society.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

          This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

          My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

          🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

          #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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          pouakai@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #64

          @_elena @EUCommission @aral
          Hmm, then I think Mastodon is a better place than that W stuff

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          • reverend@social.undeadnetwork.deR reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de

            @_elena @EUCommission @aral The same nonsense we saw with #Mistral. It says on the official Wikipedia page that it’s down to Google, Meta and the usual hedge funds. Then billions are thrown at it; Mistral is utterly incompetent – in other words, rubbish. But everyone made money. I reckon there’s no getting round reading Rosa Luxemburg’s *The Accumulation of Capital*. That’s what it’s always about. Always.

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            harald_korneliussen@mastodon.partipirate.org
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            #65

            @reverend @_elena @EUCommission @aral I'm pretty sure many in the Commission don't want Mistral to compete. They expect Trump to go away and things to go back to "normal" and then they want to be in the US admin's good graces.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

              This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

              My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

              🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

              #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

              captainmalu@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              captainmalu@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #66

              @_elena @EUCommission @aral
              "Nein!" "Doch!" "Oh!" 😉
              #LouisDeFunes

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              • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                @_elena @EUCommission @aral

                I am not a programmer, at all, zero knowledge, but for 20 years, I've been listening to OS evangelicals tell me how important OS is

                and you know what ?
                I don't care
                I really don't

                and I am, among my entire circle of friends/family/coworkers, the "odd guy" who cares about stuff like this

                so if I don't care, I would guess that 98% of the population doesn't care

                so maybe OS evangelicals need a better message ?

                milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                milagemayvary@mstdn.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #67

                @failedLyndonLaRouchite

                Closed source (black box software) is mainly a tool to the large corpos for wealth extraction.

                Open sourcing is a way of community resistance against abuse.

                If Mastodon somehow went closed source you could fork, since the protocol was built in the open you have all the tools needed to keep your own server running even if Mastodon were to dissapear.

                If they started closed source none of this talk would be applicable, server shuts down & the service just goes bye-bye.

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                • milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM milagemayvary@mstdn.social

                  @failedLyndonLaRouchite

                  Closed source (black box software) is mainly a tool to the large corpos for wealth extraction.

                  Open sourcing is a way of community resistance against abuse.

                  If Mastodon somehow went closed source you could fork, since the protocol was built in the open you have all the tools needed to keep your own server running even if Mastodon were to dissapear.

                  If they started closed source none of this talk would be applicable, server shuts down & the service just goes bye-bye.

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                  failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #68

                  @milagemayvary
                  I repeat
                  it is 2026
                  is there any evidence that anyone actually cares ?

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                    This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                    My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                    🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                    #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                    hiphopheaven@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #69

                    @_elena @EUCommission @aral europeen instutution being hypocritical like usual

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                    • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                      @Mabande I think it's more just being clueless and wsocial being very well politically connected so they are able to convince these politicians to do this. It was evident this was their stategy from day one with the announcement at Davos etc. but I wouldn't necessarily have bet on them being this successful with it.

                      Ultimately this might still not mean that much though.

                      @Razemix @sanzky @_elena

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                      hiphopheaven@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #70

                      @ikuturso @Mabande @Razemix @sanzky @_elena why would you expect evil people like her to be clueless

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                      • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                        @milagemayvary
                        I repeat
                        it is 2026
                        is there any evidence that anyone actually cares ?

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                        milagemayvary@mstdn.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #71

                        @failedLyndonLaRouchite

                        You do, you care.

                        You spent the time writing that original message.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                          This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                          My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                          🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                          #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                          kerplunk@mastodon.scot
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #72

                          @_elena @EUCommission @aral

                          EU Commission, what a massive fail,
                          who was paid for the move to a closed source network??? with very dubious background and board.

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                          • feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @_elena @EUCommission @aral W Social has all the checkmarks for a scam to collect public funding...

                            Please use the money to found open source project that actually do work for all europeans (and humanity in general).

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                            ohir@social.vivaldi.net
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                            #73

                            @feyter
                            > Please use the money to found open source project that actually do work

                            This is not possible. An open-source project doesn't have the technical capability to pay a 50 percent commission.

                            Simple as that.

                            There are billions of reasons why OLAF (the EU’s anti-corruption agency) has been effectively defunded.

                            @_elena @EUCommission @aral

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                              This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                              My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                              🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                              #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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                              crazyeddie@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #74

                              @_elena @EUCommission @aral This is a tactic that is getting more and more common. It's especially so in the VC funded, quick growth bullshit going on.

                              Crypto is a big one When I was researching blockchain a bit I bought a couple sets of Tensor cards. This was Open Source when I got it and they were still peddling themselves as Open Source last I saw after they'd quietly changed all their licenses in all their repositories.

                              Happens in the services too though. Hashicorp. Bait and switch.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                                European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                                🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                                I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                                #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                                sylvia@social.lol
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #75

                                @_elena this is just wild!

                                There have to be kickbacks or I can't explain it... what a saga

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                                  European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                                  🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                                  I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                                  #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                                  thermophilus@mastodon.uno
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #76

                                  @_elena “for profit” is not the same as “evil.” If we want an open-source future, it has to be economically sustainable. Big Tech gets paid with our personal data; if you want the same level of service without handing over data, someone still has to pay for it. There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                                    European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                                    🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                                    I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                                    #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                                    eestileib@tech.lgbt
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #77

                                    @_elena

                                    They are completely owned by the tech bros.

                                    Kaja Kallas is hanging out with Peter Thiel at his Nazi Dialog camp, of course they want to surveill us.

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                                    • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                                      @Mabande I think it's more just being clueless and wsocial being very well politically connected so they are able to convince these politicians to do this. It was evident this was their stategy from day one with the announcement at Davos etc. but I wouldn't necessarily have bet on them being this successful with it.

                                      Ultimately this might still not mean that much though.

                                      @Razemix @sanzky @_elena

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                                      eestileib@tech.lgbt
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #78

                                      @ikuturso @Mabande @Razemix @sanzky @_elena

                                      This is evil not stupidity.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                                        European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                                        🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                                        I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                                        #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                                        leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #79

                                        @_elena @EUCommission it's such a betrayal. 😢🥺😰

                                        They can't be bothered to #plusOne the open free democratic social web. But they can cuddle up with weird business people in Davos? What's the point in believing in our representatives like von der Leyen anymore? Who advices them?

                                        https://folkdata.se/en/plus-one/

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                                          European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                                          🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                                          I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                                          #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                                          wjmaggos@liberal.city
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #80

                                          @_elena @aral

                                          welcome to the left.

                                          in the US, we have the Democrats who pretend to want all the good things and have great PR but somehow never seem to fight hard enough when it matters or provide what the people really need and want. they are bought off. I'm sure this exists in other countries too but at least you guys have universal health care 😛

                                          anyway I think that game is getting played in the tech world too. bluesky etc. the same excuses get made, while they retain power and profit.

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