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  • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

    @Scofisticated with microG u can use teams without issue.. But if u using lineageos then u should use Foss apps like jitsi meets for personal or for work.. Try jitsi meet

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    #73

    @GOKUSHRM @Scofisticated if the company you work for uses Microsoft or Google enterprise software, then employees don't get a choice.

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    • guigsy@mstdn.socialG guigsy@mstdn.social

      @GOKUSHRM @Scofisticated if the company you work for uses Microsoft or Google enterprise software, then employees don't get a choice.

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      #74

      @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, 😔, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

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      • rzr@mastodon.socialR rzr@mastodon.social

        https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

        Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

        Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

        I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

        Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

        Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

        Inputs welcome anyway

        @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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        #75

        @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

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        • urp74@mastodon.socialU urp74@mastodon.social

          @jdelacueva

          Works fine on /e/OS however...

          8472@norden.social8 This user is from outside of this forum
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          #76

          @URP74 @jdelacueva thanks to microg. Still connects to google 😑

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          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

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            #77

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission This is unacceptable.

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            • lambert@rheinneckar.socialL lambert@rheinneckar.social

              @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

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              #78

              @lambert @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

              I'm involved in some discussion on this matter. The short answer is that the app is not mandatory: one can use other factors. However, I only heard of few people that have figured out how to use the alternative factors.

              Best,
              Robert

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              • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

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                #79

                maybe this helps:

                https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

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                • faxe@flokinet.socialF faxe@flokinet.social

                  maybe this helps:

                  https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

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                  #80

                  @faxe it does. I testet it on /e/OS which hat microg on board.

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                  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

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                    #81

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission A couple of years ago, I complained to the portal's assistance service about this very issue, and this is the reply I got.

                    With SMS now not any more an option, we are really left only with FIDO2 keys.

                    It is unclear why they can't use established OTP standards compliant with many different platforms, and, if they really, *really* need to re-invent the wheel, why they must release their solution only through US-based platforms that come with debatable ToS.

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                    • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                      @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, 😔, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

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                      #82

                      @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                      I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                      I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                      • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                        @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                        I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                        I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                        #83

                        @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                        • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                          @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission requiring drm for a digital identity wallet... yikes ​​

                          apps attesting the hardware and software they run on is fundamentally drm and is awful. it's also just completely backwards, apps shouldn't even have the capability to do that

                          the os should be attesting this, not the apps

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                          #84

                          @lumi Pretending that this is a good use for DRM has been a grift thirty years in the making.

                          https://web.archive.org/web/20141129042827/https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2016.wss

                          @jdelacueva @IvanSanchez @EUCommission @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout

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                          • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                            @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                            #85

                            @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                            • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                              @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                              #86

                              @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                              2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

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                              • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

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                                #87

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
                                My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse.

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                                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

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                                  #88

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                  > consider installing the Google Play Store and Google Play Services

                                  Fun fact, it would be unofficial community hack and very propably against Google terms of service.

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                                  • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                    @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                                    2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

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                                    #89

                                    @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                                    But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

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                                    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

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                                      #90

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission Certainly unnecessary, but EU pols (pols generally, in fact) don’t seem either well-informed or concerned about such important matters.

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                                      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

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                                        #91

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pues hay que ir buscando alternativa antes del capado de Android decretado por Google...

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                                        • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Similarly, that banks can deny you service because you're using a non-Google-approved system (instead of a wildly more insecure chinesium Android that was abandoned 5 years ago, which is magically still okay to use somehow), is an absolute disgrace and just really shouldn't be a thing.

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                                          #92

                                          @phl @jdelacueva @EUCommission *nods in GrapheneOS*

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