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  • urp74@mastodon.socialU urp74@mastodon.social

    @jdelacueva

    Works fine on /e/OS however...

    8472@norden.social8 This user is from outside of this forum
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    #76

    @URP74 @jdelacueva thanks to microg. Still connects to google 😑

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    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

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      #77

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission This is unacceptable.

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      • lambert@rheinneckar.socialL lambert@rheinneckar.social

        @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

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        #78

        @lambert @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

        I'm involved in some discussion on this matter. The short answer is that the app is not mandatory: one can use other factors. However, I only heard of few people that have figured out how to use the alternative factors.

        Best,
        Robert

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        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          faxe@flokinet.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #79

          maybe this helps:

          https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

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          • faxe@flokinet.socialF faxe@flokinet.social

            maybe this helps:

            https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

            8472@norden.social8 This user is from outside of this forum
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            #80

            @faxe it does. I testet it on /e/OS which hat microg on board.

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            • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              giocomai@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #81

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission A couple of years ago, I complained to the portal's assistance service about this very issue, and this is the reply I got.

              With SMS now not any more an option, we are really left only with FIDO2 keys.

              It is unclear why they can't use established OTP standards compliant with many different platforms, and, if they really, *really* need to re-invent the wheel, why they must release their solution only through US-based platforms that come with debatable ToS.

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              • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, 😔, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

                scofisticated@socel.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #82

                @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                  @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                  I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                  I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                  #83

                  @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                  • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                    @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission requiring drm for a digital identity wallet... yikes ​​

                    apps attesting the hardware and software they run on is fundamentally drm and is awful. it's also just completely backwards, apps shouldn't even have the capability to do that

                    the os should be attesting this, not the apps

                    riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #84

                    @lumi Pretending that this is a good use for DRM has been a grift thirty years in the making.

                    https://web.archive.org/web/20141129042827/https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2016.wss

                    @jdelacueva @IvanSanchez @EUCommission @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout

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                    • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                      @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                      #85

                      @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                      • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                        @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                        #86

                        @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                        2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

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                        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #87

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                          Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
                          My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse.

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                          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            didek@101010.plD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #88

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                            > consider installing the Google Play Store and Google Play Services

                            Fun fact, it would be unofficial community hack and very propably against Google terms of service.

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                            • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                              @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                              2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

                              scofisticated@socel.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #89

                              @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                              But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

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                              • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                holdenweb@freeradical.zoneH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #90

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission Certainly unnecessary, but EU pols (pols generally, in fact) don’t seem either well-informed or concerned about such important matters.

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                                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  ribadeando@amarinha.galR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #91

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pues hay que ir buscando alternativa antes del capado de Android decretado por Google...

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                                  • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission Similarly, that banks can deny you service because you're using a non-Google-approved system (instead of a wildly more insecure chinesium Android that was abandoned 5 years ago, which is magically still okay to use somehow), is an absolute disgrace and just really shouldn't be a thing.

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                                    #92

                                    @phl @jdelacueva @EUCommission *nods in GrapheneOS*

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                                    • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                      Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
                                      My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse.

                                      mrrustbot@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #93

                                      @n_dimension @jdelacueva

                                      From what I understand, a workaround is to create a new user and install Google Play Services and this app just for that user. Then just switch between that user and your normal one.

                                      When you switch back to your normal user, Google Play Services and everything else the other user has installed will stop running completely.

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                                      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

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                                        #94

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                        You mean you're unwilling to hand your personal information to oligarchs to increase their wealth for the privilege of using a communications network which they don't own and which your government mandates?

                                        What nerve!

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                                        • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                                          @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                                          But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

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                                          #95

                                          @Scofisticated @GOKUSHRM
                                          I spent months and months trying to square the circle and ended up with a Pixel running Graphene as personal phone, and a cheap Samsung that's just a Teams + Authenticator + InTune solution...
                                          I'm actually very happy and realising it reduces some other headaches I hadn't noticed, plus future proofs me against the corpo bullshit getting worse.

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