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  3. After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

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  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

    After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

    I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

    If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

    https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

    https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

    #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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    #29

    @everton137 horses to water it seems, sadly. Even people who joined at my invite/suggestion don’t hate the facist algos enough to develop their presence here. They aren’t stupid, but apparently they are lazy or too busy. 😢😣

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    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

      https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

      https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

      #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

      gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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      gimulnautti@mastodon.green
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      #30

      @everton137 Algorithms are just more obfuscated tools of control, very simple.

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      • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

        @_elena @ivory @everton137

        I'm still using Google. I am used to it. Ant my laptop has Windows. Seldom using a celphone. Only when I don't have a pc in reach.

        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #31

        @CarineMissiaen @ivory @everton137 thanks! in that case Phanpy is phenomenal, as it has cross-platform compatibility. Give it a try (especially the catch up feature)

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        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

          After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

          I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

          If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

          https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

          https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

          #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

          dl2jml@mastodon.radioD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #32

          @everton137 Marketing likes classical social media, because it serves statistics on engagement: how many people saw your post, how much time they spent, etc... You have not seen these statistics because you need an advertiser's account.
          It is something they can give to their bosses to show that they worked hard.
          Mastodon does not offer that. Marketing will not use it.
          Which is a good thing.

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          • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

            After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

            I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

            If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

            https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

            https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

            #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

            netraven@hear-me.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #33

            @everton137 most of those other people, suck.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @engel @everton137

              yes

              because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg

              are you really happy with that idea?

              mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #34

              @benroyce @engel @everton137

              From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

              It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

              Am I wrong on this point?

              john@vyrse.socialJ benroyce@mastodon.socialB sfwmson@universeodon.comS 3 Replies Last reply
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              • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

                @everton137
                I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out 😆 (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

                luca@sironi.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #35

                @CarineMissiaen @everton137

                hello Carine,
                at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.

                What you consider less intuitive ?

                If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social

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                • mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM mywoolymastadon@toot.community

                  @benroyce @engel @everton137

                  From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

                  It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

                  Am I wrong on this point?

                  john@vyrse.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #36

                  @MyWoolyMastadon @benroyce @engel @everton137

                  I don't think you're wrong: like life, the fediverse gives you back what you put into it.

                  Follow nobody, get nothing.
                  Spend a little time building you follow lists?
                  Value and fun ensue.

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                  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                    After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                    I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                    If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                    https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                    https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                    #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                    sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    sassinake@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #37

                    @everton137

                    I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.

                    there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.

                    anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.

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                    • mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM mywoolymastadon@toot.community

                      @benroyce @engel @everton137

                      From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

                      It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

                      Am I wrong on this point?

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #38

                      @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                      not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness

                      as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience

                      so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently

                      xinit@mastodon.coffeeX the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT 2 Replies Last reply
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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                        not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness

                        as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience

                        so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently

                        xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #39

                        @benroyce
                        It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi.

                        @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ 2 Replies Last reply
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                        • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                          @benroyce
                          It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi.

                          @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

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                          #40

                          @xinit @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137

                          exactly

                          the whole topic is a nontopic

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                          • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                            After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                            I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                            If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                            https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                            https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                            #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                            growfediverse@dillyofapickle.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #41

                            @everton137 I have no faith that there is fair content surfacing in an ecosystem where all the following factors are true:
                            A. Algorithmic feeds
                            B. VC / Advertising based funding
                            C. Platforming and verifying fascists

                            A + B + C = Content Supression. Every time. There's incentive to squelch who fascists dont like.

                            Posting in for profit spaces who accept the money and/or social brand reach of fascists is akin to trying to get the word out by yelling while someone covers your face with a pillow. Yelling in a pillow can be cathardic, but no one else is gonna hear.

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                            • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

                              @everton137

                              I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.

                              there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.

                              anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.

                              collette@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #42

                              @Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..

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                              • collette@mastodon.socialC collette@mastodon.social

                                @Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..

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                                #43

                                @collette alright, yes - the discover tab.
                                but it's not mandatory.

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                                • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

                                  @CarineMissiaen @everton137 welcome here, you will get the hang of it!
                                  Ignore global timeline. Follow some hashtags you like, one popular on is #Caturday

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                                  #44

                                  @shadowwwind @CarineMissiaen @everton137

                                  And #silentsunday for your mental health breaks.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @ticho I think it replicates a lot of the toxic ways of Twitter, so popular posts are typically those that induce rage. Accounts that post about US politics have A LOT of interactions

                                    @everton137

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                                    #45

                                    @_elena @ticho @everton137
                                    That's one reason I left Bsky for fedi. Bsky was nothing but liberal rage instead of the alt right of Twitter. I was getting mad, not value. Fedi has some of that content but far more other discussions that I actually enjoy reading. Happy I made the swap.

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                                    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                      https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                      https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                      #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                                      dalekmad@mastodon.ieD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #46

                                      @everton137 Bluesky has terrible engagement (learnt the hard way) and an increasing issue with bots.

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                                      • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                        After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                        I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                        If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                        https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                        https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                        #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                                        #47

                                        @everton137 I have a very good reason for not not taking this opportunity to leave FB/Xitter/Insta/whatever.
                                        I did it 4 years ago, and havent been back since.

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                                        • luca@sironi.xyzL luca@sironi.xyz

                                          @CarineMissiaen @everton137

                                          hello Carine,
                                          at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.

                                          What you consider less intuitive ?

                                          If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social

                                          carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #48

                                          @luca @everton137

                                          I will have to learn it. It took me years to understand the FB tricks. But most people from the Belgian shepherd dog community, I know from FB. And sometimes we met in real and said "oh, is that you?"
                                          Probably they have not been criticizing the T-Rump administration and they put more pictures of themwelves (I very seldom do, I don't like my pictures).

                                          everton137@social.vivaldi.netE alsopaisleycat@tenforward.socialA 2 Replies Last reply
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