After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
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After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212
@everton137 Marketing likes classical social media, because it serves statistics on engagement: how many people saw your post, how much time they spent, etc... You have not seen these statistics because you need an advertiser's account.
It is something they can give to their bosses to show that they worked hard.
Mastodon does not offer that. Marketing will not use it.
Which is a good thing. -
After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212
@everton137 most of those other people, suck.
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yes
because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg
are you really happy with that idea?
From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.
It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.
Am I wrong on this point?
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@everton137
I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out
(I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.hello Carine,
at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.What you consider less intuitive ?
If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social
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From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.
It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.
Am I wrong on this point?
@MyWoolyMastadon @benroyce @engel @everton137
I don't think you're wrong: like life, the fediverse gives you back what you put into it.
Follow nobody, get nothing.
Spend a little time building you follow lists?
Value and fun ensue. -
After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212
I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.
there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.
anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.
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From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.
It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.
Am I wrong on this point?
@MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137
not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness
as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience
so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently
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@MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137
not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness
as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience
so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently
@benroyce
It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi. -
@benroyce
It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi. -
After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212
@everton137 I have no faith that there is fair content surfacing in an ecosystem where all the following factors are true:
A. Algorithmic feeds
B. VC / Advertising based funding
C. Platforming and verifying fascistsA + B + C = Content Supression. Every time. There's incentive to squelch who fascists dont like.
Posting in for profit spaces who accept the money and/or social brand reach of fascists is akin to trying to get the word out by yelling while someone covers your face with a pillow. Yelling in a pillow can be cathardic, but no one else is gonna hear.
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I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.
there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.
anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.
@Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..
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@Sassinake “there’s no algorithm” is just hard to believe about bluesky. Maybe theres not Meta’s algorithm, but something else chooses what is fed and when - the ‘discover’ tab when not logged in, for example..
@collette alright, yes - the discover tab.
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@CarineMissiaen @everton137 welcome here, you will get the hang of it!
Ignore global timeline. Follow some hashtags you like, one popular on is #Caturday@shadowwwind @CarineMissiaen @everton137
And #silentsunday for your mental health breaks.
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@ticho I think it replicates a lot of the toxic ways of Twitter, so popular posts are typically those that induce rage. Accounts that post about US politics have A LOT of interactions
@_elena @ticho @everton137
That's one reason I left Bsky for fedi. Bsky was nothing but liberal rage instead of the alt right of Twitter. I was getting mad, not value. Fedi has some of that content but far more other discussions that I actually enjoy reading. Happy I made the swap. -
After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212
@everton137 Bluesky has terrible engagement (learnt the hard way) and an increasing issue with bots.
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After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212
@everton137 I have a very good reason for not not taking this opportunity to leave FB/Xitter/Insta/whatever.
I did it 4 years ago, and havent been back since. -
hello Carine,
at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.What you consider less intuitive ?
If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social
I will have to learn it. It took me years to understand the FB tricks. But most people from the Belgian shepherd dog community, I know from FB. And sometimes we met in real and said "oh, is that you?"
Probably they have not been criticizing the T-Rump administration and they put more pictures of themwelves (I very seldom do, I don't like my pictures). -
@gabboman may you share an example to have an idea what bomb on BlueSky?
@everton137 @gabboman I'll give you an example, my lab discovered a magtape of the UNIX v4 source code from 1973. Did extremely well here, nothing at all over on bluesky.
https://discuss.systems/@ricci/115504720054699983
Which is fine, just a different audience.
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@MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137
not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness
as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience
so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently
@benroyce @MyWoolyMastadon @engel @everton137
It's like saying I want an email service that only my friends can use to only email other people that are my friends.
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After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212
@everton137 I agree with you, but I also wonder if part of it is that people on BlueSky are much more likely than people on Mastodon to be reluctant to ditch their Twitter account entirely (even if they mostly post on another platform).
