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  • thtb@pixelfed.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21
    Respect for choosing typographical order over digital noise 🙂
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    • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

      @CiaraNi You will be pleased to hear about the Finnish word ääkkönen (usually used in the plural, ääkköset). Apparently nowadays accepted as an actual word, even if originally invented as a pun.

      https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ääkkönen

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      #22

      @tml

      "ääkkönen: (computing) Any of the letters Å å, Ä ä or Ö ö, which are found in the Finnish alphabet, but not in the English one. "

      I am indeed most pleased to hear about this word. Thank you.

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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        #23

        @CiaraNi The word 'fada' has entered the chat.

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        • thtb@pixelfed.socialT thtb@pixelfed.social
          Respect for choosing typographical order over digital noise 🙂
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          #24

          @Thtb 🙂

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          • psneeze@mastodon.ieP psneeze@mastodon.ie

            @CiaraNi The word 'fada' has entered the chat.

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            #25

            @psneeze This truth made me laugh actually aloud

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              @psneeze This truth made me laugh actually aloud

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              #26

              @CiaraNi 😁

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                @hanscees Sorry, that only made sense inside my head. And it's not even all umlauts. The New Yorker insists on persisting with the use of diaeresis - naïve, coöperation, etc

                Edited to add: I love your meme there

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                #27

                @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

                Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

                But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  @tml

                  "ääkkönen: (computing) Any of the letters Å å, Ä ä or Ö ö, which are found in the Finnish alphabet, but not in the English one. "

                  I am indeed most pleased to hear about this word. Thank you.

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                  #28

                  @CiaraNi @tml I am not 100% familiar with Finnish grammar 😉, but the unrivalled density of ümläute / umlauts in the inflection table is quite a sight: ääkköstä & ääkösiä in the partitive case. Can't get any better than thät!

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    @psneeze This truth made me laugh actually aloud

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                    #29

                    @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                      #30

                      @CiaraNi
                      well, there's this: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BCmlaut

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                        #31

                        @CiaraNi Umlaut has a case of 'do as I say and not as I do'

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                        • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                          @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

                          Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

                          But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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                          #32

                          @tml @hanscees This is interesting! I freely admit that I just use the word Umlaut casually for any old two dots I see over any old letter, the way I say 'astronomical' for things that are not even that big.

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                            #33

                            @CiaraNi nor is there an apostrophe in the word apostrophe, nor . . . [you get the idea]

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              @hanscees Sorry, that only made sense inside my head. And it's not even all umlauts. The New Yorker insists on persisting with the use of diaeresis - naïve, coöperation, etc

                              Edited to add: I love your meme there

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                              @CiaraNi @hanscees
                              > insists on persisting with the use of diaeresis - naïve, coöperation, etc

                              I think it's kinda sexy. Maybe because it makes me think of Anaïs Nin.

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                              • ben_b_here@ohai.socialB ben_b_here@ohai.social

                                @CiaraNi @tml I am not 100% familiar with Finnish grammar 😉, but the unrivalled density of ümläute / umlauts in the inflection table is quite a sight: ääkköstä & ääkösiä in the partitive case. Can't get any better than thät!

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                                @ben_b_here @tml I'm trying and failing to pronounce these, but having fun trying

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                  #36

                                  @CiaraNi Could manage one on a diëresis.

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    @czottmann I need them to start spelling the word with so many umlauts too, please, because it feels wrong without them

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                                    #37

                                    @CiaraNi ümläütß

                                    There you go

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                                    • shivers@mastodon.ieS shivers@mastodon.ie

                                      @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

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                                      #38

                                      @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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                                      • wannabemystiker@expressional.socialW wannabemystiker@expressional.social

                                        @CiaraNi
                                        And the word 'stød' isn't pronounced with a stød in it. What's with that?!

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                                        @wannabemystiker @CiaraNi I think it depends on what side of the "stødgrænse" (dunno how to translate that) you are.
                                        https://dialekt.ku.dk/maanedens_emne/stoedgraensen/

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                                        • jbiserkov@mas.toJ jbiserkov@mas.to

                                          @CiaraNi
                                          well, there's this: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BCmlaut

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                                          #40

                                          @jbiserkov It says it's a "hyperforeign misspelling', but I'd vote for it.

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