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  • rosareven@gamerstavern.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
    rosareven@gamerstavern.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
    rosareven@gamerstavern.online
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #110

    @onepict @_elena @WeirdWriter
    omg i cri

    thank you for sharing this, best read in ages

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    • rosareven@gamerstavern.onlineR rosareven@gamerstavern.online

      @onepict @_elena @WeirdWriter
      omg i cri

      thank you for sharing this, best read in ages

      weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #111

      More to come! Here is an introduction by me, of sorts, but I'd also recommend reading, the Bookstore Hope. https://sightlessscribbles.com/about/ @rosareven @onepict @_elena

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      • wtebbens@social.coopW wtebbens@social.coop

        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Add Aurora @tunubesecamirio - she is an amazing activist and public speaker with profound crutucism on AI for ecosocial reasons.

        The name of their activist project, Tu Nube Seca Mi Rio, is so wellchosen, so visual for the damage these hyperscalers are making. Worth checking a translator for, careful with the LLMs though 😉

        tunubesecamirio@masto.esT This user is from outside of this forum
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        tunubesecamirio@masto.es
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #112

        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante

        Thanks for your words, @Wtebbens

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        • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

          @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

          tunubesecamirio@masto.esT This user is from outside of this forum
          tunubesecamirio@masto.esT This user is from outside of this forum
          tunubesecamirio@masto.es
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #113

          @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @Aepasek @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

          Merci Romuald!

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            grosser_mensch@norden.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
            grosser_mensch@norden.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
            grosser_mensch@norden.social
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            #114

            @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante He’s not in the Fediverse I think but I love his takes on all stories AI: https://pivot-to-ai.com/rss/

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              leoschuldiner23@linernotes.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
              leoschuldiner23@linernotes.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
              leoschuldiner23@linernotes.club
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #115

              @_elena Over here! I'm migrating to @leoschuldiner23@beige.party so, be my guest 🙂 #NoAI (and as a musician, especially in music industry). Cheers from Chile!

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              • astrohyde@mastodon.socialA astrohyde@mastodon.social

                @_elena I think everyone I follow is #NoAI lol, I went from teaching data sci and physics to teaching how to circumvent/remove #LLMs in data sci and physics... it's tough for the kids trying to learn through this slop 🙃 One thing I think helps a bit is to specify when dragging #LLM_AI vs #DecisionTree_AI #NeuralNet_AI or #Statistical_AI etc. Alot of phys/ data sci here uses #AI as a catchall for all of #datascience including #MachineLearning so it can get confusing (is likely meant to be lol).

                srvanderplas@datavis.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                srvanderplas@datavis.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                srvanderplas@datavis.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #116

                @AstroHyde @_elena the "is machine learning still AI" question is one that I keep running into. AI is just a terribly nonspecific term.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                  em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                  em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #117

                  @_elena @DAIR 🙋‍♀️ If that helps, I was quoted in this article calling AI the archenemesis of data privacy: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxie-marlinspike-wants-to-do-for-ai-what-he-did-for-messaging/

                  'Data privacy expert Em (she keeps her last name off the Internet) called AI assistants the “archnemesis” of data privacy because their utility relies on assembling massive amounts of data from myriad sources, including individuals.

                  “AI models are inherent data collectors,” she told Ars. “They rely on large data collection for training, improvements, operations, and customizations. More often than not, this data is collected without clear and informed consent (from unknowing training subjects or from platform users), and is sent to and accessed by a private company with many incentives to share and monetize this data.”'

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                  • justin@social.younger.wtfJ justin@social.younger.wtf

                    @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

                    hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    hikingdude@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #118

                    @Justin @_elena
                    We can agree to disagree.
                    I can just say that I see a lot of good usecase at work that makes my life easier

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      @_elena @DAIR 🙋‍♀️ If that helps, I was quoted in this article calling AI the archenemesis of data privacy: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxie-marlinspike-wants-to-do-for-ai-what-he-did-for-messaging/

                      'Data privacy expert Em (she keeps her last name off the Internet) called AI assistants the “archnemesis” of data privacy because their utility relies on assembling massive amounts of data from myriad sources, including individuals.

                      “AI models are inherent data collectors,” she told Ars. “They rely on large data collection for training, improvements, operations, and customizations. More often than not, this data is collected without clear and informed consent (from unknowing training subjects or from platform users), and is sent to and accessed by a private company with many incentives to share and monetize this data.”'

                      em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                      em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                      em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #119

                      @_elena Here's another public statement I made: https://infosec.exchange/@Em0nM4stodon/116109826119332018

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                      • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                        @Justin @_elena
                        We can agree to disagree.
                        I can just say that I see a lot of good usecase at work that makes my life easier

                        justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        justin@social.younger.wtf
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #120

                        @hikingdude @_elena You don't need to spend any time defending the billion dollar industry that has a laundry list of horrible things attached to it, war, theft, scamming, even if its made it easier to do some small little thing for you.
                        Hopefully at some point you see why its such a weird thing to go out of your way to post as a reply to her.

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante I would clarify also that I am not quite #NoAI in terms of AI tech, but I am definitely opposed to the *AI industry* and this hype wave. There may be various useful things from this tech, but the net version of things with it being forced upon society right now in this hype wave is that everything is getting much worse, and sickeningly so.

                          Several more pieces need to be added to the puzzle to make "AI" tech more useful, and I'm also simply opposed to a direction in society that dismisses and devalues creative endeavors, which a lot of this hype is putting at the center of itself. Creativity is what makes life largely worthwhile. I'm not willing to give that up.

                          I have no problem with OpenImageDenoiser in Blender, which speeds up renders through machine learning, and in no way devalues creativity. But something which made it so I just typed a few words into Blender and it did all my artwork for me, I would oppose.

                          eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #121

                          @cwebber

                          @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante

                          This is why it's so important to specify things like generative-AI. AI on its own is a meaningless nothing-word with how much it's shoved in everywhere and anywhere. Yeah, faster denoising with machine learning is great! But a slop machine that pollutes the environment and steals people's jobs and work for the purpose of deceiving others for capitalistic gain? Not so great.

                          I love the AI that detects cancers better than doctors can, I love the AIs that automatically remove pauses from audio recordings, and I love the AI that automates boring, tedious sh!t that humans hate doing such as spreadsheet organizing. I just fucking hate generative-AI specifically.

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                          • justin@social.younger.wtfJ justin@social.younger.wtf

                            @hikingdude @_elena You don't need to spend any time defending the billion dollar industry that has a laundry list of horrible things attached to it, war, theft, scamming, even if its made it easier to do some small little thing for you.
                            Hopefully at some point you see why its such a weird thing to go out of your way to post as a reply to her.

                            hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            hikingdude@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #122

                            @Justin @_elena
                            I am a big opponent of hype and slop and misuse - but I'm a realist and expect that the technology won't go away. No matter wether I like it or not.

                            So I don't regard it weird at all.

                            But if you want me to take a position to be either a proponent OR opponent - well then I have to disappoint.

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                            • grosser_mensch@norden.socialG grosser_mensch@norden.social

                              @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante He’s not in the Fediverse I think but I love his takes on all stories AI: https://pivot-to-ai.com/rss/

                              jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #123

                              @grosser_mensch David Gerard? He is here! @davidgerard

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                Do you have any recommendations?

                                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                pythonbynight@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pythonbynight@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pythonbynight@hachyderm.io
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #124

                                @_elena Most (maybe all?) of my writing on my blog this year has been in response to tech-industry's harms in pushing LLMs.

                                https://pythonbynight.com/blog

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                                • th@social.v.stT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  th@social.v.stT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  th@social.v.st
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #125

                                  @jwildeboer @blainsmith @_elena @jan do you know how to get the compiler to produce working executables on the Underwood Portable?

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                                  • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

                                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante not sure if this counts, but I am adamantly #NoAI! all of my videos on @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube are proudly AI-free and my https://hit-counter.net project won’t provide counters to sites containing AI content! 🙂

                                    riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #126

                                    @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube

                                    https://toot.cat/@riley/116209585426042145?

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                                    • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                                      @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube

                                      https://toot.cat/@riley/116209585426042145?

                                      groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      groupnebula563@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #127

                                      @riley @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube oh, absolutely! I’ve already reblogged that, even 😛

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                        Do you have any recommendations?

                                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                        alex@social.alexschroeder.chA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        alex@social.alexschroeder.ch
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #128

                                        @_elena It's not very popular but I use the hashtag #ButlerianJihad.

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                                        • elwollito@muenchen.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          elwollito@muenchen.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #129

                                          @davidrevoy @_elena @kawunngg
                                          all of the big models are trained on Reddit so I don´t think additional tarpits are needen

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