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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    @skaphle Yes, and I'll do the short version: it is a AI bro scam, boosted by a large (and successful) marketing effort. It was defeated on day 1, and now remain with a user base like a cult, especially appreciated from non technical user who are ready to believe it.
    That's sad, I wish something like that would work, be open-source, would run on Linux, and be done by serious peoples.

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    skaphle@social.tchncs.de
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #91

    @davidrevoy Oh no, I didn't know that... Too bad.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #92

      @davidrevoy wow, the ai colored version does actually look disgusting.

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        @skaphle Yes, and I'll do the short version: it is a AI bro scam, boosted by a large (and successful) marketing effort. It was defeated on day 1, and now remain with a user base like a cult, especially appreciated from non technical user who are ready to believe it.
        That's sad, I wish something like that would work, be open-source, would run on Linux, and be done by serious peoples.

        verati404@socel.netV This user is from outside of this forum
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        verati404@socel.net
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #93

        @davidrevoy @skaphle I didn't know that they didn't work. Ugh. So much for Cara's artist socmed website being all into Glaze.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

          artist78@mastodon.artA This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #94

          @davidrevoy I think it would be cool if we as artists could come up with a license for our art as a community for this exact thing.

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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            linux@fairy.id
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #95

            @davidrevoy

            But the A.I. companies disagree, and that is what matters. / sarcasm, mostly.

            The unfortunate reality is even Disney has been fighting against A.I. usage, but somehow they're always given a pass. The closest they got to "winning" was a settlement once.

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            • mhunt@socel.netM mhunt@socel.net

              @davidrevoy laws are too slow updating to the use of A.I. I'm sorry you have to go trough this.

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              gbargoud@masto.nyc
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #96

              @mhunt @davidrevoy

              Laws already make so many shitty things people do with AI illegal. Enforcement has just decided not to care and let it slide.

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              • evelynoctavia@c.imE evelynoctavia@c.im

                @davidrevoy wow, the ai colored version does actually look disgusting.

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                paculino@tech.lgbt
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #97

                @EvelynOctavia @davidrevoy it's clearly different shapes altogether even. The arms are different lengths and it seems she has three knees??? Tiles are a different pattern, the expressions are different, and the angles are changed.

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                • discatte@digipres.clubD discatte@digipres.club

                  @davidrevoy I had someone post aigen derivatives of some old 3d artists I was sharing back in the twitter days. I can only imagine the feeling of seeing that of my own works.

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #98

                  @discatte @davidrevoy Gross!

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                    suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #99
                    @davidrevoy That is the wrong way to try to solve the problem.

                    By referring to slop machines as "AI", you are supporting corporation's propaganda.

                    Why run proprietary software and SaaSS to check grammar? Your brain can do that and it seems free grammar checking programs already existed.

                    I'm not confident copyright or moral wrongs laws even permits such restrictions anyway (restrictions on use are a terrible idea, even if legally valid and even if at the start it's only restricts immoral activities; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom-to-run.en.html).

                    A correct way to try to solve the problem, that does not require modifying CC licenses, is to license CC BY-SA 4.0 and enforce the attribution part.

                    >99% of the time someone makes a degenerated copy, they won't have included the attribution and/or added their own proprietary restrictions, thus you can demand that the slop is deleted and permanently terminate the license.
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                    • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                      @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                      2. Tiles are wrong
                      3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                      4. Curve to lower right is gone
                      5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                      6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                      7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                      8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                      doctormo@floss.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #100

                      @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy

                      3. Bread, its a stochastic bread.

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                        spitfire@mastodon.de
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #101

                        @davidrevoy those generated images are revolting 😣

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                        • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                          @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                          2. Tiles are wrong
                          3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                          4. Curve to lower right is gone
                          5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                          6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                          7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                          8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                          foxysen@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #102

                          @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy left arm is now severely undergrown compared to right arm

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                          • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                            @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                            2. Tiles are wrong
                            3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                            4. Curve to lower right is gone
                            5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                            6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                            7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                            8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                            kuba@ruby.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #103

                            @bstacey
                            n. left hand's point finger grown "AI bonus branching finger"

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                            • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                              @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                              2. Tiles are wrong
                              3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                              4. Curve to lower right is gone
                              5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                              6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                              7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                              8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                              bstacey@icosahedron.website
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #104

                              @f4grx @davidrevoy 9. Hem of shirt has changed in a way that loses character
                              10. Pendant has changed, thin chain necklace has become a ribbon
                              11. Third knee?

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                sm4llth1ng@mamot.fr
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #105

                                @davidrevoy ❤

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                                  boz@mastodon.unoB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  boz@mastodon.uno
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #106

                                  @davidrevoy Edited: I was trapped by the title which is inclined to believe you adopted an esoteric copyright license, which in case it would not block who we intend to block, as LLM slop do not fall in copyright.

                                  That's a new trend: tending to all rights reserved, or some restrictions reserved in the hope to stop LLM, but we are just stopping us from collaborating and LLM will grow anyway, and we lose.

                                  Glad you are using moral rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights Thanks! Interesting.

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                    pelya@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #107

                                    @davidrevoy
                                    AI girl is crying
                                    Over an unbroken pumpkin
                                    There are no tears
                                    ...lol

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                                      mdhughes@appdot.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      mdhughes@appdot.net
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #108

                                      @davidrevoy I don't get why meat puppets submit to the machine in the first place. But I extra don't get *sending you* the results.

                                      If I was making garbage of someone's work, I'd just keep it to myself, or sell it without notice if I had no ethics.

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                        hadokowa@mas.to
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #109

                                        @davidrevoy I wonder how many of us chose Creative Common licenses with the obvious thinking that those licenses would forbid AI use?

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                                        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                          @dajb @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy CC-BY does not allow AI training use because such use does not preserve attribution. It's great to be explicit about that, but there is no "the old license allowed it" loophole here.

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                                          dajb@social.coop
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #110

                                          @dalias @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy no

                                          If only it were that simple:

                                          "CC licenses apply only when copyright permission is required. If exceptions or limitations apply, then the CC license terms don’t apply."

                                          https://creativecommons.org/using-cc-licensed-works-for-ai-training-2/

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