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  3. New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • discatte@digipres.clubD discatte@digipres.club

    @davidrevoy I had someone post aigen derivatives of some old 3d artists I was sharing back in the twitter days. I can only imagine the feeling of seeing that of my own works.

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    #98

    @discatte @davidrevoy Gross!

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #99
      @davidrevoy That is the wrong way to try to solve the problem.

      By referring to slop machines as "AI", you are supporting corporation's propaganda.

      Why run proprietary software and SaaSS to check grammar? Your brain can do that and it seems free grammar checking programs already existed.

      I'm not confident copyright or moral wrongs laws even permits such restrictions anyway (restrictions on use are a terrible idea, even if legally valid and even if at the start it's only restricts immoral activities; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom-to-run.en.html).

      A correct way to try to solve the problem, that does not require modifying CC licenses, is to license CC BY-SA 4.0 and enforce the attribution part.

      >99% of the time someone makes a degenerated copy, they won't have included the attribution and/or added their own proprietary restrictions, thus you can demand that the slop is deleted and permanently terminate the license.
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      • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

        @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
        2. Tiles are wrong
        3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
        4. Curve to lower right is gone
        5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
        6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
        7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
        8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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        #100

        @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy

        3. Bread, its a stochastic bread.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #101

          @davidrevoy those generated images are revolting 😣

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          • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

            @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
            2. Tiles are wrong
            3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
            4. Curve to lower right is gone
            5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
            6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
            7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
            8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #102

            @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy left arm is now severely undergrown compared to right arm

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            • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

              @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
              2. Tiles are wrong
              3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
              4. Curve to lower right is gone
              5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
              6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
              7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
              8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #103

              @bstacey
              n. left hand's point finger grown "AI bonus branching finger"

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              • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                2. Tiles are wrong
                3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                4. Curve to lower right is gone
                5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #104

                @f4grx @davidrevoy 9. Hem of shirt has changed in a way that loses character
                10. Pendant has changed, thin chain necklace has become a ribbon
                11. Third knee?

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                  #105

                  @davidrevoy ❤

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                    boz@mastodon.unoB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #106

                    @davidrevoy Edited: I was trapped by the title which is inclined to believe you adopted an esoteric copyright license, which in case it would not block who we intend to block, as LLM slop do not fall in copyright.

                    That's a new trend: tending to all rights reserved, or some restrictions reserved in the hope to stop LLM, but we are just stopping us from collaborating and LLM will grow anyway, and we lose.

                    Glad you are using moral rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights Thanks! Interesting.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                      pelya@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #107

                      @davidrevoy
                      AI girl is crying
                      Over an unbroken pumpkin
                      There are no tears
                      ...lol

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                        #108

                        @davidrevoy I don't get why meat puppets submit to the machine in the first place. But I extra don't get *sending you* the results.

                        If I was making garbage of someone's work, I'd just keep it to myself, or sell it without notice if I had no ethics.

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                          #109

                          @davidrevoy I wonder how many of us chose Creative Common licenses with the obvious thinking that those licenses would forbid AI use?

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                          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                            @dajb @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy CC-BY does not allow AI training use because such use does not preserve attribution. It's great to be explicit about that, but there is no "the old license allowed it" loophole here.

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                            dajb@social.coop
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #110

                            @dalias @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy no

                            If only it were that simple:

                            "CC licenses apply only when copyright permission is required. If exceptions or limitations apply, then the CC license terms don’t apply."

                            https://creativecommons.org/using-cc-licensed-works-for-ai-training-2/

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                              #111

                              @davidrevoy I remembered this tweet from the Pope while looking at the "Generative AI version" next to the OG version.

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                              • P pirigoto@mastodonapp.uk

                                @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy if you live in the UK it's fine if you do that with pigs, so long you are part of the political class

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #112

                                @Pirigoto

                                Obviously, pig having sex with pig is nothing to be frowned upon.😉

                                @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy

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                                • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                                  @f4grx @davidrevoy why do people even *do* that??

                                  “hey artist i like your work anyway i used a machine to make it better maybe you’ll like it” seems like a very deranged thing to do and yet

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #113

                                  @h5e @f4grx @davidrevoy that “better” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

                                  Whatever happened to respecting art and ideas? I can understand wanting to see a ‘finished’ version of the sketch in the example, but that’s not up to me or a machine to do so. Just leave it to the imagination - of which AI bros have none (imho)

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                                  • giacomo@snac.tesio.itG giacomo@snac.tesio.it
                                    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    Consider to also add an explicit "training fee". Something like: you can use any of my images for generative AI training for 10€ each pixel.
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                                    #114

                                    @giacomo @davidrevoy And add a "generation fee" of €10 per pixel training data used per generation

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                                    • richrockster@mastodon.socialR richrockster@mastodon.social

                                      @h5e @f4grx @davidrevoy that “better” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

                                      Whatever happened to respecting art and ideas? I can understand wanting to see a ‘finished’ version of the sketch in the example, but that’s not up to me or a machine to do so. Just leave it to the imagination - of which AI bros have none (imho)

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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #115

                                      @richrockster @f4grx @davidrevoy better is not my opinion, obviously

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #116

                                        @arfisk Thank you, yes, I'm a follower of the CC blog. I'm also often reacting to their post on mastodon, or alerting them since 2022/2023 to handle the situation, but they never reply or interact.

                                        Sadly, I feel them pretty disconnected from the "artist and content creators" right now on Internet. I lost hope in them.

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                                        • linebyline@mastoart.socialL linebyline@mastoart.social

                                          @davidrevoy Why would someone look at a bunch of comics about how much you hate AI and think that sending you AI clones of those comics was a good idea?

                                          My guess: They don't think you'll like it, they think you're owned. See? This AI you hate so much can make comics as well as you can! (It can't.)

                                          The other "offers" of course probably had AI do the work of deciding to e-mail you and everything, so whatever humans were involved probably neither knew nor cared. Spam casts a wide net after all.

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                                          #117

                                          @Linebyline To my surprise, the ones who are sending me this, often think they are "helping", a bit like when someone show the usage of fire to cavemen. Same type of energy, they think I'm not smart as them to know how to use AI, so they offer their help... 😩

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