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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

    @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
    2. Tiles are wrong
    3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
    4. Curve to lower right is gone
    5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
    6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
    7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
    8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

    doctormo@floss.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    doctormo@floss.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #100

    @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy

    3. Bread, its a stochastic bread.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

      spitfire@mastodon.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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      spitfire@mastodon.de
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #101

      @davidrevoy those generated images are revolting 😣

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      • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

        @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
        2. Tiles are wrong
        3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
        4. Curve to lower right is gone
        5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
        6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
        7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
        8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

        foxysen@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        foxysen@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #102

        @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy left arm is now severely undergrown compared to right arm

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        • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

          @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
          2. Tiles are wrong
          3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
          4. Curve to lower right is gone
          5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
          6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
          7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
          8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

          kuba@ruby.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          kuba@ruby.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #103

          @bstacey
          n. left hand's point finger grown "AI bonus branching finger"

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          • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

            @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
            2. Tiles are wrong
            3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
            4. Curve to lower right is gone
            5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
            6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
            7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
            8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

            bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB This user is from outside of this forum
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            bstacey@icosahedron.website
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #104

            @f4grx @davidrevoy 9. Hem of shirt has changed in a way that loses character
            10. Pendant has changed, thin chain necklace has become a ribbon
            11. Third knee?

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

              sm4llth1ng@mamot.frS This user is from outside of this forum
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              sm4llth1ng@mamot.fr
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #105

              @davidrevoy ❤

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                boz@mastodon.unoB This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #106

                @davidrevoy Edited: I was trapped by the title which is inclined to believe you adopted an esoteric copyright license, which in case it would not block who we intend to block, as LLM slop do not fall in copyright.

                That's a new trend: tending to all rights reserved, or some restrictions reserved in the hope to stop LLM, but we are just stopping us from collaborating and LLM will grow anyway, and we lose.

                Glad you are using moral rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights Thanks! Interesting.

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                  pelya@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #107

                  @davidrevoy
                  AI girl is crying
                  Over an unbroken pumpkin
                  There are no tears
                  ...lol

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                    mdhughes@appdot.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #108

                    @davidrevoy I don't get why meat puppets submit to the machine in the first place. But I extra don't get *sending you* the results.

                    If I was making garbage of someone's work, I'd just keep it to myself, or sell it without notice if I had no ethics.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                      hadokowa@mas.toH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      hadokowa@mas.to
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #109

                      @davidrevoy I wonder how many of us chose Creative Common licenses with the obvious thinking that those licenses would forbid AI use?

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                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                        @dajb @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy CC-BY does not allow AI training use because such use does not preserve attribution. It's great to be explicit about that, but there is no "the old license allowed it" loophole here.

                        dajb@social.coopD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        dajb@social.coop
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #110

                        @dalias @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy no

                        If only it were that simple:

                        "CC licenses apply only when copyright permission is required. If exceptions or limitations apply, then the CC license terms don’t apply."

                        https://creativecommons.org/using-cc-licensed-works-for-ai-training-2/

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                          iscarlosmolero@landofooo.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #111

                          @davidrevoy I remembered this tweet from the Pope while looking at the "Generative AI version" next to the OG version.

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                          • P pirigoto@mastodonapp.uk

                            @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy if you live in the UK it's fine if you do that with pigs, so long you are part of the political class

                            fandasin@social.linux.pizzaF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            fandasin@social.linux.pizza
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #112

                            @Pirigoto

                            Obviously, pig having sex with pig is nothing to be frowned upon.😉

                            @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy

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                            • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                              @f4grx @davidrevoy why do people even *do* that??

                              “hey artist i like your work anyway i used a machine to make it better maybe you’ll like it” seems like a very deranged thing to do and yet

                              richrockster@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              richrockster@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #113

                              @h5e @f4grx @davidrevoy that “better” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

                              Whatever happened to respecting art and ideas? I can understand wanting to see a ‘finished’ version of the sketch in the example, but that’s not up to me or a machine to do so. Just leave it to the imagination - of which AI bros have none (imho)

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                              • giacomo@snac.tesio.itG giacomo@snac.tesio.it
                                @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                Consider to also add an explicit "training fee". Something like: you can use any of my images for generative AI training for 10€ each pixel.
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                                the3rdcrow@masto.ai
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #114

                                @giacomo @davidrevoy And add a "generation fee" of €10 per pixel training data used per generation

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                                • richrockster@mastodon.socialR richrockster@mastodon.social

                                  @h5e @f4grx @davidrevoy that “better” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

                                  Whatever happened to respecting art and ideas? I can understand wanting to see a ‘finished’ version of the sketch in the example, but that’s not up to me or a machine to do so. Just leave it to the imagination - of which AI bros have none (imho)

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                                  h5e@tech.lgbt
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #115

                                  @richrockster @f4grx @davidrevoy better is not my opinion, obviously

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #116

                                    @arfisk Thank you, yes, I'm a follower of the CC blog. I'm also often reacting to their post on mastodon, or alerting them since 2022/2023 to handle the situation, but they never reply or interact.

                                    Sadly, I feel them pretty disconnected from the "artist and content creators" right now on Internet. I lost hope in them.

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                                    • linebyline@mastoart.socialL linebyline@mastoart.social

                                      @davidrevoy Why would someone look at a bunch of comics about how much you hate AI and think that sending you AI clones of those comics was a good idea?

                                      My guess: They don't think you'll like it, they think you're owned. See? This AI you hate so much can make comics as well as you can! (It can't.)

                                      The other "offers" of course probably had AI do the work of deciding to e-mail you and everything, so whatever humans were involved probably neither knew nor cared. Spam casts a wide net after all.

                                      davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #117

                                      @Linebyline To my surprise, the ones who are sending me this, often think they are "helping", a bit like when someone show the usage of fire to cavemen. Same type of energy, they think I'm not smart as them to know how to use AI, so they offer their help... 😩

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                                      • farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF farbenstau@infosec.exchange

                                        @davidrevoy

                                        Please have a proper lawyer with copyright/licensing experience look at your idea of how to license your comics in the future.

                                        I am pretty sure you cannot legally use a "CC-something" with an additional "no AI" clause, because then the folks behind the CC licensing might send you a cease and desist letter, since they don't approve of a CC-but-no-AI-use license just yet.

                                        You will probably have to come up with an entire license text of your own, and call it something like the David-Revoy-no-AI-License.

                                        davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #118

                                        @farbenstau Having a proper lawyer is not in my budget, and so, not in my options unfortunately.

                                        I check: 600€ per appointments, first one to meet and frame the issue, then two more for work in progress, and even more then to redact the paper or something. I don't have ~3000€ to invest on this, and one afternoon per week to take the car to the closest city and wait into the desk of a lawyer.

                                        Right now, just drawing the line publicly and stamping it on my art might be enough to dissuade usage.

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          @farbenstau Having a proper lawyer is not in my budget, and so, not in my options unfortunately.

                                          I check: 600€ per appointments, first one to meet and frame the issue, then two more for work in progress, and even more then to redact the paper or something. I don't have ~3000€ to invest on this, and one afternoon per week to take the car to the closest city and wait into the desk of a lawyer.

                                          Right now, just drawing the line publicly and stamping it on my art might be enough to dissuade usage.

                                          farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          farbenstau@infosec.exchange
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #119

                                          @davidrevoy WTF? Over here, the initial meetup is usually around 150-250€ …
                                          Also, are there no online services where you can consult with an attorney, is that not legal in your country?

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