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  • dilmandila@mograph.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

    kaffeeringe@social.tchncs.deK ditsch42@troet.cafeD kobold@orthographieanarchist.deK wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW t_robinart@mastodon.artT 29 Replies Last reply
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    • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

      This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

      kaffeeringe@social.tchncs.deK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @dilmandila I think people cheer more for it, because they hate Adobe, than because they like the new programs.

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      • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

        This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

        ditsch42@troet.cafeD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @dilmandila Oh yes, I was also rolling my eyes very strongly when I first heard about this. Didn't consider the training aspect, but of course the open source codes are right there for everyone to steal...

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        • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

          This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

          kobold@orthographieanarchist.deK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @dilmandila The cheering might be caused for other reasons, at least from observations within my bubble:
          - FOSS project have been re-writen by AI in order to circumvent GPL and similar licenses, so why not free proprietary software the same way?
          - Massive copyright infringements from OpenAI, Meta, Google and so on went without consequences. If e.g Adobe would sue now, the question of AI and copyrights  need to be resolved finally.
          - And finally the Adobe subscription model might just die.

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          • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

            This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

            wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @dilmandila there have been a few sensible and serious reviews of this slop and they all find the same fundamental problems. Turns out it’s easy to churn out somethjng that looks just like the adobe ui but of course it doesn’t actually work.

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            • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

              This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

              t_robinart@mastodon.artT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @dilmandila
              Oh, this is what happened? I read about it briefly yesterday and was wondering how someone would even do that and if it was really better than the alternatives we already have.

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              • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                barbara@assemblag.esB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @dilmandila This is a great argument and honestly, you saved me a click.

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                • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                  This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                  john380@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @dilmandila it was sad to try it and realize it doesn’t do basic stuff, like filter or delete when it says it deleted.

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                  • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                    This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                    diraquel@masto.ptD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @dilmandila @Gargron I love Gimp! Because of it, I don't even know how to work on Photoshop. But, TBF, I'm not a pro user.

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                    • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                      This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                      cschack@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @dilmandila My social feeds have been full of posts about this. It seems a bit suspicious, to be honest.

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                      • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                        This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                        dr_laemmerbein@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @dilmandila Same thoughts here... But most people also claim that they need Microsoft Word because you can't get anything done with LibreOffice. Or that they actually need Photoshop instead of Gimp. Hell, let them vibecode what they feel like. At least it's open source and it might dispell some of the magic of pricey closed software. Personally I always believed that software should be free and with AI there's much less incentive to steal code anyway...

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                        • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                          This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                          aj@home.ajacks.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12
                          @dilmandila I wonder how many more times they can rediscover that making the code is almost the least important or difficult part of software development before it actually sinks in 🤔
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                          • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                            This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                            chronomoogle.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            It’s just AI bros pushing their agenda

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                            • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                              This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                              skofos@eldritch.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @dilmandila I perceive a gap with techbros whose opinion clearly shifted in the past 6 months. Beforehand they were against the AI written software big wave. Now it's just "whatever if people stop using paid software"
                              People 👏 the point of FOSS is to be out of capitalism and all of its parts. AI is capitalism. Throw it away! Software won't be free if it's built with AI

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                              • wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW wifiwits@infosec.exchange

                                @dilmandila there have been a few sensible and serious reviews of this slop and they all find the same fundamental problems. Turns out it’s easy to churn out somethjng that looks just like the adobe ui but of course it doesn’t actually work.

                                naught101@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @Wifiwits @dilmandila can you link some?

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                                • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                                  This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

                                  canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @dilmandila I barely managed to get After Effects 24 running under Linux and render stuff there. There is also EffectsCraft...

                                  It is bad though that it is not hand made. But for my use case, I need animation more.

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                                  • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                                    This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

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                                    #17

                                    @dilmandila totally agree with you and find the raging weird and off putting.

                                    The only way the optimism might make sense to me (being one who feels trapped by Adobe) is that the new software claims to be able to open and save Adobe formats perfectly. The FOSS software can’t do this. Being able to handle Adobe files well is a prerequisite to making a clean break with Adobe.

                                    Otherwise, the hue is completely misdirected.

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                                    • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                                      This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

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                                      #18

                                      @dilmandila Deleted Adobe after they trained their own LLM on PRIVATE PHOTO GALLERIES of their PREMIUM users. Never going back. Fuck Adobe. They are beyond evil!

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                                      • lag_netzpolitik_bw@linke.socialL lag_netzpolitik_bw@linke.social

                                        @dilmandila Deleted Adobe after they trained their own LLM on PRIVATE PHOTO GALLERIES of their PREMIUM users. Never going back. Fuck Adobe. They are beyond evil!

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                                        #19

                                        @LAG_Netzpolitik_BW @dilmandila 😮
                                        (mutters in "those m'fuckers")

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                                        • dilmandila@mograph.socialD dilmandila@mograph.social

                                          This is depressing. Perfectly good alternatives to all Adobe have existed for many years and are used at pro level, but someone hallucinates some code with claude (which I hear was trained on code of programs like gimp and inkscape) and suddenly everyone is raving about it being the end of Adobe, though the thing they praise is at best entry level stuff. But like other snake oil sellers, they claim it will get there, though their "in one month" is now "many months" #artcraft #foss

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                                          #20

                                          @dilmandila My youngest daughter is an artist. She uses a Wacom tablet with Krita on her System76 laptop running Pop!_OS. When I told her about this she just shrugged and said "I use Krita." Cheers, -Randy #krita

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