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@ted so, what are the consequences of not putting any time into things?
Is getting paid the only reason people do things?
Why do developers make and maintain Open Source software, anyway?
Could they have different goals? How much time should they put into the project to achieve those different goals?
@malwareminigun the question is, how much is "very little"?
@joergi @dannycolin @preinheimer I know that `npm` has a feature where you can mark a package as deprecated or unmaintained. I think there are other systems for doing this.
@tony why do they want to? At least in part for it to be useful, for at least some developers, right?
@shtrom so, if it's not because they owe somebody something, why do volunteer maintainers do the work in the first place? And if they do have a goal, how much time do they have to put in to reach it? Are there different amounts of time for different goals?
@tony so, how much time do you think it takes for maintainers to keep software in a state where it still works for you?
@troglobit @preinheimer @joergi because I like thinking about hard topics. You don't have to, though!
@troglobit @joergi would you continue to use software that has unpatched security alerts?
@larsmb and you'll keep using their unmaintained software, full of known security bugs, regardless?
@malwareminigun so, you'll keep using the software, no matter if there are outstanding security alerts, dependency EOL, untriaged issues? Just as long as the maintainers are happy?
@tony So, you're happy using unmaintained or under-maintained software?
There's no minimum amount of time you expect maintainers to put in -- even on security issues, dependency or platform EOL, all that stuff?
You're going to use it regardless?
@preinheimer @joergi so, there's no minimum amount of time where you'd worry that the project is unmaintained or under-maintained?
@jmcclure yes, of course it should be defined by Bob's settings.
But what settings should be available to him? And what should be the default?
@flowerpot what would Bob's reply look like to his followers?
@maj Dawn's and my answer would be all of Alice's followers. I don't like the intersection answer, because it gets smaller and smaller over time. I think Alice's intent is to have her friends and family have a conversation, like it works on Instagram and Facebook.
@mhoye it's not about everyone having access to every conversation. When I make a friend's-only post on Instagram or Facebook, I expect my friends and family to be able to talk to each other. These conversations are really precious and intimate to me. I would hate to have them attenuate to nothing because no one could see each other's replies.