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  • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

    @streetcoder @noybeu
    Mozilla gets 85% of their annual revenue from Google, if that helps

    streetcoder@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    streetcoder@mastodon.social
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #26

    @RnDanger @noybeu

    Could be part of the problem. I think Mozilla is routing GA requests through their own servers and claim it's for privacy reasons.

    But why do they not show these analytics request in dev tools?

    I can see them! All of them which are running through my clients websites with Server Side GTM. All tracking parameters are unchanged, same same, no privacy.

    They still could profile and target people, I can redact this before Google, but not before Mozilla Servers are reached.

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    • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

      πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

      πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

      πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

      ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

      rokabe@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      rokabe@mastodon.social
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #27

      @noybeu do you know of an initiative like this that includes the UK?

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      • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

        πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

        πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

        πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

        ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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        edwardcage@mastodon.social
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #28

        @noybeu
        It... already exists. Most browsers give the option to refuse all cookies.
        It also already existed before the RGPD, that's why the RGPD was completly useless about dealing with cookies.

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        • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

          @RichiH Hi Richard, if you click on the names, you'll be forwarded to the MEP's subpage of the European Parliament. There you can see more information about them.

          richih@chaos.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          richih@chaos.social
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #29

          @noybeu fair point. Though from a perspective of coordinating a LOT of human action, you want to minimize the amount of friction for everyone.

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          • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

            πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

            πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

            πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

            ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

            disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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            disorderlyf@todon.eu
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #30

            @noybeu I've heard claims the resolution does more than just give a brower-level "reject all optional" but I need to verify that claim.

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            • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

              πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

              πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

              πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

              ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

              softproof@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              softproof@mastodon.social
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #31

              @noybeu So glad to read some concerted action is at least afoot to try stop this constant cookie harassment. Thanks for the heads-up!

              I got so miffed by this scam that a few years back I made a T-shirt to tell others how I felt...
              No one even commented on it, let alone agreed. Oh well, let's hope the pros get better results.

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              • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                groxx@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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                groxx@hachyderm.io
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #32

                @noybeu should've been the "do not track" header all along

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                • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

                  @Jc00qe @noybeu
                  You can just block third party cookies right now for a start.

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                  jc00qe@mastodon.social
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #33

                  @jerrej @noybeu i get it, they called it 'solution' that's what i was harping on about.

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                  • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                    πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                    πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                    πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                    ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                    edwiebe@scribili.masto.hostE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    edwiebe@scribili.masto.host
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #34

                    @noybeu

                    nature.com now has this banner that one has to click for it to go away. It's just as annoying.

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                    • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                      πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                      πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                      πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                      ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                      manu@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      manu@freiburg.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #35

                      @noybeu

                      While I support this, I must admit that I'd miss watching #Consentomatic clicking away my banners a little bit.

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                      • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                        πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                        πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                        πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                        ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                        leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        leeloo@c.im
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #36

                        @noybeu
                        How is that going to end cookie banners, ΒΎ of which aren't even legal in the first place?

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                        • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                          @HarHarLinks Hi there! We will provide more information on the website explaining how the solution could look like in practice asap. In short, we favor an approach where a third-party agent can manage such requests and give (based on user choices) specific consent to individual controllers.

                          You can check out ADPC or navigator.consent for examples for how this can be implemented technically

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                          colognella@social.cologne
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #37

                          @noybeu @HarHarLinks so there would be one centralised 3rd party player who has all my consent and browsing data at one place? What could possibly go wrong?

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                          • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                            πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                            πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                            πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                            ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                            electropict@mastodon.scotE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            electropict@mastodon.scot
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #38

                            @noybeu

                            It's not clear what this could really mean. Will there be a register of cookie purposes that domain owners can sign up with, so that every possible use of cookies can be identified so UAs could possibly give users the option to choose? Seems unlikely. Or is it just some very broad generalisations such as currently found in many intrusive cookie banners - essential, optional, none; which is of limited use.
                            ...

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                            • electropict@mastodon.scotE electropict@mastodon.scot

                              @noybeu

                              It's not clear what this could really mean. Will there be a register of cookie purposes that domain owners can sign up with, so that every possible use of cookies can be identified so UAs could possibly give users the option to choose? Seems unlikely. Or is it just some very broad generalisations such as currently found in many intrusive cookie banners - essential, optional, none; which is of limited use.
                              ...

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                              electropict@mastodon.scot
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #39

                              @noybeu

                              ...

                              Then if I want to set a cookie for a specific function you may or may not want working, I still need to tell people what and why. (Of course, *I* don't use an intrusive banner, just a little note.)

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                              • groxx@hachyderm.ioG groxx@hachyderm.io

                                @noybeu should've been the "do not track" header all along

                                lhengstmengel@mastodon.nlL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                lhengstmengel@mastodon.nl
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #40

                                @groxx @noybeu the "do not track" feature was removed from firefox because most sites completely ignored it. Which will probably also happen with this new proposal.

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                                • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                  πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                                  πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                                  πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                                  ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                                  citify@social.leshley.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  citify@social.leshley.ca
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #41
                                  @noybeu Great idea! why didn't anyone think of it ?
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                                  • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                    πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                                    πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                                    πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                                    ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

                                    mattmoose@mastodon.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    mattmoose@mastodon.world
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #42

                                    @noybeu
                                    Sadly our idiotic UK representatives don't currently relate to the EU, so I'll just wave this small flag from over here and hope it counts.

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                                    • noybeu@mastodon.socialN noybeu@mastodon.social

                                      πŸͺ There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 🚫 And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!

                                      πŸ’‘ The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.

                                      πŸ“ƒ A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.

                                      ➑️ https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

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                                      beepster4096@furry.engineer
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #43

                                      @noybeu lmao the private surveillence industry will literally just ignore it. you need to actually make this shit extremely illegal with punishment of prison time, not include a millionth opt-out pretty please no tracking button.

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                                      • streetcoder@mastodon.socialS streetcoder@mastodon.social

                                        @noybeu Another thing is I want to give site specific consent, e.g. I like showing Valve and some other sites that I'm on Linux, so that they can focus on optimise for these system.

                                        Ok, certainly there will be a way for me to configure this but that leads to the question if site owners should have the right to remind me and ask again. Basically showing the good old banner again.

                                        If yes, than mainly all sites will stick to showing the banner on every landing page.

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                                        luca@activitypub.lucamatei.com
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #44

                                        @streetcoder
                                        As a site owner I fully agree with you on the point that users should decide per site whether to agree to analytics or not.

                                        As a site user, I reject all cookies always. I straight up don't even read or process these banners anymore
                                        Some websites havr maybe 5 cookies to agree to. Others have 500. It's so much to read and sit down and understand. Especially on the web where time is limited and there are so many sites to visit always

                                        I am conflicted πŸ˜•
                                        @noybeu

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                                        • manu@freiburg.socialM manu@freiburg.social

                                          @noybeu

                                          While I support this, I must admit that I'd miss watching #Consentomatic clicking away my banners a little bit.

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                                          replytomaikel@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #45

                                          @manu I have not seen any banners ever since I installed it @noybeu

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