🍪 There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners.
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@noybeu And last but not least if the banners will really be killed, most VLOPs sites will continue with visitor stitching and track everything in a hidden server to server way.
So given that, the server infrastructure would have to be inspected from time to time by official inspectors. Who should do that? Which organisation do you trust.
It's a mess.
BTW: I'm angry to Mozilla hiding the Google Analytics requests in Dev Tools beside they are clearly coming through with almost all data.
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Mozilla gets 85% of their annual revenue from Google, if that helpsCould be part of the problem. I think Mozilla is routing GA requests through their own servers and claim it's for privacy reasons.
But why do they not show these analytics request in dev tools?
I can see them! All of them which are running through my clients websites with Server Side GTM. All tracking parameters are unchanged, same same, no privacy.
They still could profile and target people, I can redact this before Google, but not before Mozilla Servers are reached.
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. 
And we finally have a chance to get rid of them!
The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently.
A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union. @noybeu do you know of an initiative like this that includes the UK?
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
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It... already exists. Most browsers give the option to refuse all cookies.
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@RichiH Hi Richard, if you click on the names, you'll be forwarded to the MEP's subpage of the European Parliament. There you can see more information about them.
@noybeu fair point. Though from a perspective of coordinating a LOT of human action, you want to minimize the amount of friction for everyone.
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
@noybeu I've heard claims the resolution does more than just give a brower-level "reject all optional" but I need to verify that claim.
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
@noybeu So glad to read some concerted action is at least afoot to try stop this constant cookie harassment. Thanks for the heads-up!
I got so miffed by this scam that a few years back I made a T-shirt to tell others how I felt...
No one even commented on it, let alone agreed. Oh well, let's hope the pros get better results. -
There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
@noybeu should've been the "do not track" header all along
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
nature.com now has this banner that one has to click for it to go away. It's just as annoying.
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
While I support this, I must admit that I'd miss watching #Consentomatic clicking away my banners a little bit.
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
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How is that going to end cookie banners, ¾ of which aren't even legal in the first place? -
@HarHarLinks Hi there! We will provide more information on the website explaining how the solution could look like in practice asap. In short, we favor an approach where a third-party agent can manage such requests and give (based on user choices) specific consent to individual controllers.
You can check out ADPC or navigator.consent for examples for how this can be implemented technically
@noybeu @HarHarLinks so there would be one centralised 3rd party player who has all my consent and browsing data at one place? What could possibly go wrong?
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
It's not clear what this could really mean. Will there be a register of cookie purposes that domain owners can sign up with, so that every possible use of cookies can be identified so UAs could possibly give users the option to choose? Seems unlikely. Or is it just some very broad generalisations such as currently found in many intrusive cookie banners - essential, optional, none; which is of limited use.
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It's not clear what this could really mean. Will there be a register of cookie purposes that domain owners can sign up with, so that every possible use of cookies can be identified so UAs could possibly give users the option to choose? Seems unlikely. Or is it just some very broad generalisations such as currently found in many intrusive cookie banners - essential, optional, none; which is of limited use.
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Then if I want to set a cookie for a specific function you may or may not want working, I still need to tell people what and why. (Of course, *I* don't use an intrusive banner, just a little note.)
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@noybeu should've been the "do not track" header all along
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union. @noybeu Great idea! why didn't anyone think of it ?
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There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
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Sadly our idiotic UK representatives don't currently relate to the EU, so I'll just wave this small flag from over here and hope it counts. -
There's one thing we can all agree on: we're fed up with misleading cookie banners. And we finally have a chance to get rid of them! The solution? Simple! Express your privacy preferences once, for example via your browser or device, and have them respected permanently. A proposal to end this tracking circus is currently on the table of EU lawmakers – and could easily simplify things for everyone in the European Union.
@noybeu lmao the private surveillence industry will literally just ignore it. you need to actually make this shit extremely illegal with punishment of prison time, not include a millionth opt-out pretty please no tracking button.
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@noybeu Another thing is I want to give site specific consent, e.g. I like showing Valve and some other sites that I'm on Linux, so that they can focus on optimise for these system.
Ok, certainly there will be a way for me to configure this but that leads to the question if site owners should have the right to remind me and ask again. Basically showing the good old banner again.
If yes, than mainly all sites will stick to showing the banner on every landing page.
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As a site owner I fully agree with you on the point that users should decide per site whether to agree to analytics or not.As a site user, I reject all cookies always. I straight up don't even read or process these banners anymore
Some websites havr maybe 5 cookies to agree to. Others have 500. It's so much to read and sit down and understand. Especially on the web where time is limited and there are so many sites to visit alwaysI am conflicted
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