"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
And just because a country calls itself, socialist, or democratic, or even a republic, does not mean it is one.
(and beware f those that think that being a republic and a democracy are mutually exclusive)
@the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic
the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist
etc
people forget:
1. the historical evolution of a country or party
2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair lightthen people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues
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@retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth Performative cynicism will get us nowhere. Generalization will get us nowhere. There are no pure socialist societies. There are no pure capitalist ones either. They are all blends. Intelligent participation adjusts the blend for the better. There is nothing more privileged than calling for revolution, to burn it all down. Because you know you will survive. Want people to vote? Stop telling them their vote doesn't matter.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I would also say that communism, socialism and capitalism are economic constructs, not political. Democracy and authoritarianism and fascism are political constructs.
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@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I would also say that communism, socialism and capitalism are economic constructs, not political. Democracy and authoritarianism and fascism are political constructs.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.
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@the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic
the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist
etc
people forget:
1. the historical evolution of a country or party
2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair lightthen people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.
What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.
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@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.
@farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’ -
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.
What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.
@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i agree except with your conclusion
cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy
we fight
we always fight
and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism
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@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i agree except with your conclusion
cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy
we fight
we always fight
and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.
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@farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship
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@farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the answer to
"i don't do politics"
is simple:
"but politics does you
so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"
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@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Yup, so that is why Ben and several others are up here is to push, beg, convince, cajole, intimidate, scream to get people to vote
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@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.
@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i'll give you my brutally honest response:
fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck
find new friends
really. fuck entitled lumps
i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.
@bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the answer to
"i don't do politics"
is simple:
"but politics does you
so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"
@benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
That's just too simple. -
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Have schools stopped teaching anything regarding propaganda in modern history. Is it only my (ancient) generation that recognises media manipulation by capitalism? -
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?
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@farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
If you don't do politics, politics will still seek to do you. The Epstein class is rapists, not people looking for consensual ANYTHING after all.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.
